The Biggest Mistakes Investors Make in Real Estate

The Biggest Mistakes Investors Make in Real Estate

Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
The Biggest Mistakes Investors Make in Real Estate

Okay, not all of the mistakes, just some of the biggest.

  1. Asking for legal advice on Bigger Pockets. It’s an investment site, not a legal site.
    1. You are better off asking at AVVO.com or LEGAL.com
  2. Assuming every answer you get is accurate
    1. Well meaning people can give some pretty bad advice, because they don’t know it’s bad advice
  3. Never making a decision
    1. Investing means taking action, it’s a participation game. Find someone you trust and build a relationship, sometimes it speeds things up by a year or two to pay for training
  4. Never asking your questions. .(This is for you lurkers out there) ;-)
    1. We were all new at one point. We made the mistakes so you don’t have to.
  5. Not selecting a path to take
    1. If you have no money, that’s okay. You can still learn investing
    2. Team up with someone that does have money and become their assistant
    3. If you have a lot of money and no time, either look into syndications or find someone who buys properties for people who have no time, like us.
  6. If you want to do Subject To
    1. Have about $30,000 available liquid cash
    2. It is Not “no money down”
    3. Borrowing from others to cover the costs for doing Subject To has serious legal consequences and is extremely risky for you, your 2nd position lender and for the seller
    4. It is easy to do the contract (Transaction) for Subject To, but it is very hard to do the next few years correctly. That requires guidance
    5. If you are a lender, the worst loan you can make is in second position on an over leveraged Subject To for someone who has no money. Do not expect to get your money back.
    6. I just heard that some are forging Proof of Funds or using other people’s POF. That is likely mortgage fraud, bank fraud and wire fraud as defined by 18 U.S. Code Chapter 47 - Fraud And False Statements, which is a very boring read, unless it applies to you.
    7. Please don’t do that.
    8. Make sure your Proof of Funds source has the funds and that you are authorized to use those funds and the source will vouch for you in court.
  7. If you are going to buy “Turnkey” it is recommended you visit the actual neighborhood and actual house before closing.
    1. Things can be very different in person.
    2. Afterwards is too late.
    3. You may not like what you see
  8. Go with the Math, not the emotions or hopes of the future
    1. If you are losing money with the hopes of making it up later, you should seriously reconsider.
    2. Wishful thinking is a poor investment.
  9. Interest rates are going up
    1. And interest rates are going down.
    2. And interest rates are remaining the same.
    3. There is no clear direction for rates and there are arguments for going each direction – buy so that your property cash flows, even if you are wrong.
    1. Finding your footing.
      1. Whether you are new, looking for lenders or cash or real estate.
    2. Considering Fix & Flip, BRRRR, or rental
    3. As a buyer, the owner / seller to be one of your private lenders
    4. Creative financing works for property in Southern California (CA), AZ, WA, and TX & GA and others.
    5. But get started
  10. Ignoring your workers.
    1. Always serve your workers pizza on the job.
    2. It keeps them on-site so they don’t wander off
    3. They will think you actually care and will work harder
    4. You get to become “one of the boys” and they will tell you things you need to kno

Hmmm, out of space, but not out of mistakes.

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Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
5mo
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

Following the herd. I was close to investing in an atm deal a few years ago because someone was telling me how awesome it was but when I ran some fundamentals some things didn't add up so I said I was going to pass. Saw similar with a coffee business and glad I did


Did you see the very large atm syndicator cratered with all funds lost ? 

Massive Ponzi scheme by Paramount/Prestige and Daryl Heller...projected $400 million in lost capital.  The SEC and class-action lawsuits also name several well known fund managers and promoters.

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  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    6mo

    Following the herd. I was close to investing in an atm deal a few years ago because someone was telling me how awesome it was but when I ran some fundamentals some things didn't add up so I said I was going to pass. Saw similar with a coffee business and glad I did

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    • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      6mo
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      Following the herd. I was close to investing in an atm deal a few years ago because someone was telling me how awesome it was but when I ran some fundamentals some things didn't add up so I said I was going to pass. Saw similar with a coffee business and glad I did

      That's a good one. I've heard some strange stories about ATMs.
    • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
      Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      Following the herd. I was close to investing in an atm deal a few years ago because someone was telling me how awesome it was but when I ran some fundamentals some things didn't add up so I said I was going to pass. Saw similar with a coffee business and glad I did


      Did you see the very large atm syndicator cratered with all funds lost ? 
    • Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      Following the herd. I was close to investing in an atm deal a few years ago because someone was telling me how awesome it was but when I ran some fundamentals some things didn't add up so I said I was going to pass. Saw similar with a coffee business and glad I did


      Did you see the very large atm syndicator cratered with all funds lost ? 

      Massive Ponzi scheme by Paramount/Prestige and Daryl Heller...projected $400 million in lost capital.  The SEC and class-action lawsuits also name several well known fund managers and promoters.

    • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
      Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Mike Dymski:
      Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      Following the herd. I was close to investing in an atm deal a few years ago because someone was telling me how awesome it was but when I ran some fundamentals some things didn't add up so I said I was going to pass. Saw similar with a coffee business and glad I did


      Did you see the very large atm syndicator cratered with all funds lost ? 

      Massive Ponzi scheme by Paramount/Prestige and Daryl Heller...projected $400 million in lost capital.  The SEC and class-action lawsuits also name several well known fund managers and promoters.


      One of my partners was pretty familiar with this. his investment club had many members that invested in this.

    • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Mike Dymski:
      Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      Following the herd. I was close to investing in an atm deal a few years ago because someone was telling me how awesome it was but when I ran some fundamentals some things didn't add up so I said I was going to pass. Saw similar with a coffee business and glad I did


      Did you see the very large atm syndicator cratered with all funds lost ? 

      Massive Ponzi scheme by Paramount/Prestige and Daryl Heller...projected $400 million in lost capital.  The SEC and class-action lawsuits also name several well known fund managers and promoters.

      Yikes! Sounds like attorney heaven. "Thar's a whole lot of suin' goin' on around here." 

  • Real Estate Coach · Austin, TX · Member since 2026 · 70 posts · 26 votes
    5mo

    I'd add one more to this list: not running the numbers with realistic vacancy and management fees.

    I see investors use 0% vacancy and no PM fee because they plan to self-manage. Then when they get one bad turnover, the whole year's cash flow disappears.

    My baseline for any deal: 5-8% vacancy, 8% management (even if self-managing), 5% capex reserve. If the deal doesn't work with those buffers, I pass.

    The difference between pro forma and reality is usually 0.15-0.25x on DSCR. That's enough to flip a deal from "approved" to "declined" at most lenders.

  • Member since 2011 · 152 posts · 113 votes
    5mo

    To all the other responses I would add thinking you must know everything before you start to invest. Also, not thinking big enough. And one more: Forgetting that there can be good deals in any market which causes you to stop looking for deals when you think some part of the market is unfavorable (interest rates, prices, economy, etc.). There are distressed sellers in every market.

  • Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5mo

    Jumping in with both feet, assuming you either know much of what is needed, or that you can just wing it. It's always easy, until it isn't. Much like life, there is book learning, and real world learning...little to no comparison!

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