Why Northwest Indiana Rocks!

Why Northwest Indiana Rocks!

Property Manager · Gary, IN · Member since 2015 · 66 posts · 60 votes

Recently, I had some friends contact me about some "hot" markets other places in the country. They showed me numbers and graphs, sent me out all the info that proved their point, but yet I am still happier than ever in what some people call the Armpit of America, northwest Indiana. Located just outside of Chicago, we are the forgotten suburbs of the city. And yet, even through all of that, I am still perfectly content investing here, and I actively encourage others to come here, as well! Let me tell you why....

Northwest Indiana, affectionately called NWI by the people here, is one of the best markets in America, but not for the conventional reasons. We are located just across the state line from Chicago, and NWI makes up a good part of Chicagoland’s population of 9.8 million people.

We have a wide range of jobs. While we used to rely on the steel industry, the job market is now incredibly diverse. We are not reliant on any particular industry, compared to a city like Houston, with its dependence on the oil industry. Geographically, Chicagoland and more specifically NWI has become a crossroads of sorts. All cross-country traffic is routed south of Lake Michigan, right through the heart of this area.

Despite being right outside Chicago, notoriously one of the highest-taxed locations in the country, our property taxes are low due to Indiana’s tax code. We have all the benefits of being a suburb of Chicago without all the taxes that usually would come with it.

Rent value vs ARV is higher, compared to comparable homes other places in the country. For example, a $100,000 house here can get &1,200-$1,300 in rent. Compare this to the national average, where a $100,000 house should get between $800 and $850.

Due to being in a separate state, rent and housing prices in Illinois are considerable higher 10 minutes from comparable houses in Northwest Indiana. If the economy goes through another downturn, this actually helps rent in this area. In 2008, we saw typical monthly rents in Merrillville go from a range of $900-$1000 to $1200-$1250 for a typical $120,000 house. In south Hammond, the range went from $800-$850 to $900-$950 for a typical $80,000 house. In fact, the range now for south Hammond is $1,000 to $1,100.

With such a close proximity to downtown Chicago, just 30 minutes away on the expressway, it is easy to pull from their Chicago renter pool. Many NWI residents work downtown, commuting every day back and forth to the city. They benefit from the lower cost of living here, while still being near the benefits of Chicago.

Despite all of this, Northwest Indiana is a relatively boring market. We do not experience drastic price swings, drastic cuts, and sudden surges. We fluctuate very slowly compared to many markets in America. In 2008, it was reported that the average home price dropped 18% from the peak in 2006. In Lake County, NWI’s largest county, the average price went from $169,000 to $159,000, a drop of just 6%. It’s boring, but in a good way!

In short, Northwest Indiana is one of the safest markets to invest in! 

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Property Manager · Griffith, IN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 913 votes
10y

"Despite all of this, Northwest Indiana is a relatively boring market."

I liken it to the story of the tortoise and the hare. It's not like those CA $150K flipping profits  homes that make good TV shows. No one is making a TV show out here. It's like the slow drip of a faucet that can erode bedrock. A steady stream of cash flow in a solid rental market can add up quickly. 

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  • Property Manager · Griffith, IN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 913 votes
    10y

    "Despite all of this, Northwest Indiana is a relatively boring market."

    I liken it to the story of the tortoise and the hare. It's not like those CA $150K flipping profits  homes that make good TV shows. No one is making a TV show out here. It's like the slow drip of a faucet that can erode bedrock. A steady stream of cash flow in a solid rental market can add up quickly. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Griffith, IN · Member since 2013 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    10y

    This is good Tom, makes me realize the benefit of being here.

    Thanks!

  • Renter · Chicagoland NW Suburbs · Member since 2016 · 111 posts · 19 votes
    10y

    Wow good information you are so right about that area of Indiana being close to downtown Chicago. Downtown Chicago is gorgeous and to live that close with that housing market it is great. I agree it's like the hidden treasure of America. 

  • Real Estate Agent/Property Management · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 827 votes
    10y

    When I lived in Milwaukee, I would sometimes take weekend road trips to points south and east. And that area was always a stopping off point for me. There was a cute hotel along the highway between Merrillville and Valpo where I would always spend the night. Then breakfast at Bob Evans in Valpo the next morning.

    Personally I love the area. It has beautiful scenery. Seems pretty affluent. And so close to Chicago. Plus you have access to commuter rail into Chicago. If I were ever going to take a job in Chicago, NWI is definitely an area I would look at to live.

    By the way, I stumbled across it by accident. I was on a trip to Indianapolis and thinking about stopping for lunch. I thought all NWI was pretty much like Gary. I was shocked when I came across Merrillville.

  • Real Estate Investor · Valparaiso, IN · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    Great post.  I've only been in NWI for almost 3 years and looking into investing here less than 1, but I've come to some of the same conclusions.  The dependence on steel still makes me nervous about long term investing, but you bring up great points to the contrary.  Slow and steady is where it's at in this business.

  • Investor · Cary, IL · Member since 2014 · 124 posts · 95 votes
    10y

    I'm certainly intrigued by the idea of investing in NW indiana after hearing your points and doing some of my own research.  I live in the NW suburbs of Chicago and would have to hire a property manager to take care of the properties.  Do you know of any reputable property management companies in that area?

  • Property Manager · Gary, IN · Member since 2015 · 66 posts · 60 votes
    10y

    @Michael R., I work closely with a property manager who has about 150 properties he is managing. I can send you his info if you would like.

  • Gino BarbaroPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · St Augustine, FL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Tom Olson

    HI Tom

    Sounds like an awesome market where you still get some capital appreciation but the main driver is the yield, i.e. cash flow.  This is a buy and hold investor's dream.

    Our market down in TN is very similar, the total opposite from where i live here in NY

    Good Luck

    Gino

  • South Bend, IN · Member since 2016 · 37 posts · 4 votes
    10y
    It's good to be a Hoosier! I'm starting to look around the South Bend Mishawaka Granger Indiana area.
  • Lender · South Bend, IN · Member since 2015 · 153 posts · 37 votes
    10y

    Tom, Great Post!! I am in South Bend, Indiana and love the way you present the whole area. I am originally from Miami and am still learning this market. I have had some trouble locating local Ria's.  Can you recommend any?

  • Investor · Cary, IL · Member since 2014 · 124 posts · 95 votes
    10y

    @Tom Olson That would be greatly appreciated!  Thank you!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · San Francisco · Member since 2014 · 124 posts · 49 votes
    10y

    "The Region" love!  I grew up in Crown Point and that's where my parents still live, who happen to want to get into RE investment.  Definitely worth researching my old hometown. @Brendan M.

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 173 posts · 85 votes
    7y

    @Tom Olson hi Tom - are you able to share the info of your favorite property manager in NWI with me? Thank you

  • Jaron WallingPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    I want to hype up "The Region" and agree with this post, but unfortunately every person I know that grew up in the area are a**holes. They have resentment for Chicago and barely associate with Indianapolis. I grew up in central Indiana (2 hrs away) and it's completely different. I don't understand it. No offense to anyone commenting in the thread. I agree with Adrien S, "It's like the slow drip of a faucet that can erode bedrock". The slow drip comes from Chicago. I would invest closer to the water source. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 173 posts · 85 votes
    7y

    @Tom Olson  Hi Tom - I'm in the early stages of researching the area and would like to connect with someone who can speak to the local trends and great cities to buy in from a property manager's perspective.

  • Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2016 · 52 posts · 25 votes
    7y

    Good Morning and thank you for sharing this.  I have been looking at NWI for investments for a bit.  I agree Indiana is often overlooked even though the taxes are lower and I see more opportunities to cash flow. 

  • Ray J.Pro Member
    Gary, IN · Member since 2017 · 83 posts · 62 votes
    7y

    @Jaron Walling, I can personally identify with what you say our mentality is like. "Our" resentment toward Chicago stems from the perception that Chicagoans tend to act as if we are insignificant and they are better than us. ("our" is in quotes because not all of us feel that way, I love Chicago, but I do come across this type of Chicagoan sometimes) As far as associating with Indianapolis, we've never really had a reason to, unless we have family there or something else of significance. It's 2.5 hours away and in a different time zone (sometimes it is... I still can't get that straight). Chicago is 20 minutes away. When we turn on radio and TV, we get their stations and news, we share the Lake (we can see Chicago from the beach in Gary), similar weather, etc. It's only natural that most of us associate more closely with Chicago.

    Personally, (before investing) I've never given Indianapolis much thought one way or another, besides the fact that I'd never want to live anywhere so landlocked. I've lived and traveled all around the U. S. and world, and Indianapolis has never been a "hot spot" FOR ME. Don't get me wrong. Lots of people love Indianapolis, and I'm glad it's part of our state. It's just not for me after growing up around the Lake and Chicago. As far as investing, Indianapolis seems to be a decent market. However, being from Gary, I know Gary and surrounding areas better and I'm a lot more comfortable investing here, and (in my opinion) our rental market is just as good as Indianapolis, or better.

    I know a**holes from everywhere I've ever been. We do tend to have a lot of pride in our "Region". But it's unfortunate that you ONLY know the a**holes from here, because we aren't all a**holes.

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 15 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @Tom Olson

  • Property Manager · Gary, IN · Member since 2015 · 66 posts · 60 votes
    7y

    I Posted this 3 years ago and what I can tell everyone is. This Area has exploded since then. At a time when I was the only one that believed in the area it has sure changed now. I met last week with several hedge funds and a group of people that promise me that Amazon will be coming to Gary Indiana and will occupy the Gary International airport. Im not so sure about that but I do believe it would be amazing for Gary and amazing for the region. I also think it would be the way for amazon to stick it to NY for rejecting them in their bid to bring a headquarters to NY. But also I believe that everyone reaps what they sow. I can not think of a Better place to be able to be a blessing to a community other than Gary Indiana. Invest in the Poor and God will Bless you a multiple of what you invest! What a great name Amazon could give itself for investing into a community that needs the help and could really Help make Gary Great Again "MGGA"   However even if this does not happen there are over 4 billion dollars worth of renovations happening in the next 3-5 years on the steel mills that are coming here or expanding or the Tech center or the renovations already happening at the airport or the candy factory expanding and the Harbor that is opening up to new industrial development and the new school that is being proposed. Its insane what the opportunity looks like right now in this area.  In 18 months people will look back at this time and either say "WOW IM SO GLAD I INVESTED IN THAT AREA or they will say "WOW I WISH I WOULD HAVE"     #flippinggary   #goodsuccess  #communitygogiver   #MGGA 

  • Rental Property Investor · NorCal · Member since 2018 · 399 posts · 222 votes
    7y

    @Tom Olsen

  • Rental Property Investor · Valparaiso, IN · Member since 2017 · 48 posts · 19 votes
    6y

    @Tom Olson I've lived in the region my entire life and I am so glad I fell onto your post. I am a somewhat new investor in the region, primarily in La Porte which is more in the eastern side of the region. My returns here have been great and I even get people who love that the highway to Chicago is so close to La porte and the lake as well. I have always loved the idea to invest in Gary, as I see it being a city that really has incredible potential to be something special. My question is if you manage all of your properties on your own, or do you use a management company? I am a real estate agent as well, but not incredibly knowledgeable in the different parts of Gary for which are "good" and "bad" areas. How would you suggest me to go into learning more about Gary? 

  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 17 posts · 11 votes
    6y

    A bit late to the party, can anyone comment on the Whiting area as well? I imagine the areas closes to Chicago would do best as rental markets, but I think Hammond is almost a D class area

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