A new way (at least for me) to sell a house

A new way (at least for me) to sell a house

Investor · Dallas TX, United States · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

So I just learned a new way to sell a house.  I have been an investor for quite a while and I have about and sold a lot of houses.  

So here is my new trick.  

I like to sell with owner financing, which is also how I like to buy.  In the past, I get a house on terms under contract and I find a tenant buyer with a good down payment and who can make payments above the ones that I am making to my seller, and I make a spread in the middle.  This method works just fine, but I do spend some wasted time dealing with people who have **** credit.  Some of them have good jobs, or bigger piles of cash to put up as non-refundable option deposits, but their credit knocks them out of the game. 

So, duh, why haven't I been putting them into credit repair?

Get this, my new technique is to take them into my buyer program, they put up the non refundable option consideration NROC, and I take a portion of that NROC to place them into credit repair, with the understanding that they have to rent the house for a 1-2 year period, a trial where they are responsible for all repairs and upkeep, but they are still renters, until their credit score improves to the point where I will owner finance them the house. 

This way, I get a really well behaved renter, and the NROC payment at the very least. 

In my best case, I get a renter for a year or two, then I get to sandwich myself into the house sale with a big spread because I am not selling my house at market price to someone who needs credit repair. Generally I move my price up 20% and I make interest on the payment amount amortized, so I am getting compound interest.  Generally I buy with no interest or straight interest.  So I create a secondary spread with the interest rate.  

Finally, I can even make money with the credit repair piece.  I get a commission of $150 for each person who goes into credit repair even if they dont ever qualify to buy my house. 

So I am getting money in the NROC

I am getting paid rent, where I make cash flow and give up zero equity  

I am getting 20% above market price for my house, so I make money even if I paid retail price to get the owner finance terms that I wanted. 

I'm also getting $150 for the credit repair portion. 

Lastly I have the potential to do this again with the same house if my buyer defaults down the road. 

So how is that for an idea?

To your success

Josh 

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Investor · Tel Aviv, Israel · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 3 votes
10y

WOW genius! 

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  • Investor · Tel Aviv, Israel · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    WOW genius! 

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    nothing new there or unique. Most people with bad credit don't change their behavior.  Glorified rental.   But as you state can be a better renter and they are not on title which would be important in your state were foreclosure are so long drawn out and expensive

  • Investor · Dallas TX, United States · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    I think you may have missed my point.  What separates this from being a rental, is they my buyer can come in with renter level credit and turn into my buyer.  there are a lot of good people out there who crush their own credit due to divorce or medial issue  Some of these people have big w-2 incomes, but they hit a bump in the road.  

    Because I am willing to work with them (well some of them) I can increase my ROI drastically. I get more rental income up front, I get a higher sale price, and I get someone with rights of a tenant and the responsibility of an owner. The only trick is to hold title in escrow so that if they screw up, i can eject them like a renter. I also get a right to vacate signed up front so they aren't a problem if they fail.

    It is all about opening up a sandwich lease option to a bigger pool of buyers who already know that they have to pay more in credit terms, and then fixing their underlying problem.  Heck as far as I am concerned, they can go to a bank and cash me out, again at above market price in a few years. 

  • Specialist · Carolina Beach, NC · Member since 2016 · 390 posts · 496 votes
    10y
    I saw a presentation from a company that was doing a more extreme version of this recently. They buy REO properties in bulk at a substantial discount (like $10,000 a house, 100, 200, 300 at a time), then they turn around and bundle those into a package of six houses and sell them to investors for an average of $18,500 per house; so investor buys six properties for ~ $120,000. Then this company, acting like a turn key seller; sells the houses with seller financing for you at about $30,000 each house. Typical terms of 5% down and 12% interest. They try to target a market where they can create a spread between the typical monthly rental of a house like they are selling, and the mortgage. So, the buyer is getting a house they can rehab at lower than the typical monthly rent for the area. Now, of course, these are typically not nice houses, but they are inhabitable, and the buyers are obviously those with poor credit otherwise they'd be buying with traditional mortgages. There's every reason to believe you're going to get some non-performing notes in their, but that's why they bundle into packages of six properties, to spread the risk. It was an intriguing concept but it's too high risk for my blood at this point.
  • Investor · Dallas TX, United States · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Neil Henderson that is an interesting twist, I agree that is too scary for me to try.  I like to deal with houses that need little or no work, that way it is easier for me to find a buyer.  

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