Looking to Invest in Portsmouth VA

Looking to Invest in Portsmouth VA

Rental Property Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2016 · 144 posts · 18 votes

Hey Guys, I’m a Cash Buyer In the Miami Fl area but I’m thinking about Investing in Virginia, preferably Portsmouth, Norfolk area.

My question is How is the Rental Market in these area? Also, which is more popular as far as renting;MULTIFAMILY or SFH properties?

I'm looking to travel to VA soon, so hopefully I can meet someone that can advise me on the City.

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Patti RobertsonBusiness Member
Property Manager · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
7y

Hi @Carlos Toussaint!  I’m actually responding to your post visiting your market (at the Margarittaville in Hollywood) for the weekend, but I live in and do business in Hampton Roads.  I do own and manage in Portsmouth, but will not buy any more rentals there for many reasons.  Norfolk is by far my favorite city in invest and do business in.  I have posted on this topic before, but can’t figure out how to find it in my BP posts, so I will try to remember them all here. 

1) Property tax rates are the highest in Portsmouth of any city in our region.

2) It is expensive to get to Portsmouth from our other cities because of the tolls, and PTown (what locals call Portsmouth) is threatening to raise tolls again.

3) Financially, the city makes irresponsible choices.  They are always low on funds, yet this December they announced that because they had a budget surplus they would give every full-time city worker a $1,000 Christmas bonus. No money went to cops or teachers - just government workers.

4) The Housing Authority is a mess. A few years ago they under went a HUD investigation as a result of a resident lawsuit. There are many news articles you can find that reported o NTN is. Here is a link to one of them. https://www.wavy.com/10-on-your-side/special-report-more-public-housing-pitfalls/1156540028

5) It seems every few months someone in the political arena in Portsmouth is arrested or being investigated for some crime.  Here are recent examples. https://pilotonline.com/news/local/crime/article_d652c67c-86af-11e8-baa9-6bf25345dcce.html

https://wtkr.com/2016/03/21/portsmouth-mayor-kenny-wright-to-face-judge-on-felony-eluding-charge/

6) Portsmouth has ridiculous policies that make it difficult for real estate investors to do business.  They literally hired a team of 7 individuals (one of whom I rent to) who do nothing all day but drive around their assigned areas looking for grass violations.  The city gives you one warning per year and if there is a second violation of grass being more than 10 inches, they will cut it and send you a $280ish bill.  Yes we can pass this bill on to a tenant who was responsible for grass mowing, but who can afford to pay this for a minor offense? 

7) If you decide to accept a SEC 8 tenant in Portsmouth you have to get a required city inspection (cost is $40) and then an add’l SEC 8 inspection. The Housing Authority won’t give you a final acceptance of your rent amount until after you have passed both these inspections.  I have a big problem with that, and have expressed my opinion.  The Housing Authority director claims that all of the other HAs in our market are doing it wrong, and Portsmouth is the only one doing it right.  HUM... 

I could go on, and on, and on about why Portsmouth is on my no-buy zone list.

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  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2018 · 27 posts · 59 votes
    7y

    @Carlos Toussaint Whats up! The rental market here in Virginia is great. Norfolk, Portsmouth, Chesapeake, Va Beach, Newport news, the whole hampton roads area is a hot market a lot of military. when ever you come up this way give me a shout lets meet up. I would also say single family is more popular. Look forward to talking with you !

  • Rental Property Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2016 · 144 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Jacob McAllister That's sounds awesome!! After Researching, I notice SFH houses are popular as Rentals. Let's connect via PM

  • Realtor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    Between Norfolk and Portsmouth, Norfolk gets higher rentals on average. Depending on where in Norfolk, determines whether a single family or multi family is better. If it's near the University or the Medical school, you'll get a higher return on a multi family property. Other areas in Norfolk a single family home will do well. If you have any other questions please let me know and I'd be happy to answer them for you 👍

  • Rental Property Investor · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2016 · 23 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @Carlos Toussaint A lot of good responses already. Great market to invest in due to the military, universities and steady job market. More opportunities for sfh investing but with the right connections, there are opportunities for mfh investing. Just do your research on neighborhoods and because they can switch from B-C-D quickly, esp in Norfolk and Portsmouth.  Good luck and hopefully we will do business together.

  • Rental Property Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2016 · 144 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Larry Pendleton Thanks for the response, it was very informative. I’ll definitely need some of those connections. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2014 · 127 posts · 31 votes
    7y

    Hi Carlos,

    Our are is definitely hot for rentals.  What type of areas/investments do you typically look at in Miami?

  • Rental Property Investor · Clovis, NM · Member since 2018 · 118 posts · 55 votes
    7y

    Small multifamilies are pretty expensive right now. Most of the turnkey quads on the market are priced around $250k and don't provide very good cash flow. 

  • Patti RobertsonBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Hi @Carlos Toussaint!  I’m actually responding to your post visiting your market (at the Margarittaville in Hollywood) for the weekend, but I live in and do business in Hampton Roads.  I do own and manage in Portsmouth, but will not buy any more rentals there for many reasons.  Norfolk is by far my favorite city in invest and do business in.  I have posted on this topic before, but can’t figure out how to find it in my BP posts, so I will try to remember them all here. 

    1) Property tax rates are the highest in Portsmouth of any city in our region.

    2) It is expensive to get to Portsmouth from our other cities because of the tolls, and PTown (what locals call Portsmouth) is threatening to raise tolls again.

    3) Financially, the city makes irresponsible choices.  They are always low on funds, yet this December they announced that because they had a budget surplus they would give every full-time city worker a $1,000 Christmas bonus. No money went to cops or teachers - just government workers.

    4) The Housing Authority is a mess. A few years ago they under went a HUD investigation as a result of a resident lawsuit. There are many news articles you can find that reported o NTN is. Here is a link to one of them. https://www.wavy.com/10-on-your-side/special-report-more-public-housing-pitfalls/1156540028

    5) It seems every few months someone in the political arena in Portsmouth is arrested or being investigated for some crime.  Here are recent examples. https://pilotonline.com/news/local/crime/article_d652c67c-86af-11e8-baa9-6bf25345dcce.html

    https://wtkr.com/2016/03/21/portsmouth-mayor-kenny-wright-to-face-judge-on-felony-eluding-charge/

    6) Portsmouth has ridiculous policies that make it difficult for real estate investors to do business.  They literally hired a team of 7 individuals (one of whom I rent to) who do nothing all day but drive around their assigned areas looking for grass violations.  The city gives you one warning per year and if there is a second violation of grass being more than 10 inches, they will cut it and send you a $280ish bill.  Yes we can pass this bill on to a tenant who was responsible for grass mowing, but who can afford to pay this for a minor offense? 

    7) If you decide to accept a SEC 8 tenant in Portsmouth you have to get a required city inspection (cost is $40) and then an add’l SEC 8 inspection. The Housing Authority won’t give you a final acceptance of your rent amount until after you have passed both these inspections.  I have a big problem with that, and have expressed my opinion.  The Housing Authority director claims that all of the other HAs in our market are doing it wrong, and Portsmouth is the only one doing it right.  HUM... 

    I could go on, and on, and on about why Portsmouth is on my no-buy zone list.

  • Rental Property Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2016 · 144 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Kevin Sack Thanks.. The MULTIFAMILY in my Market is Ridiculous. I guess we both have to rely on OFF Market deals.

  • Rental Property Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2016 · 144 posts · 18 votes
    7y

    @Patti Robertson Wow, thank you for the detailed response. I’ll definitely keep those points in mind. How long is your stay in Hollywood,Fl?

  • Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2017 · 19 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    We own a couple of MFH’s in Norfolk. One in a lower-income area, and one in a slightly higher income area. The former was a great deal, was a fixer-upper, and is returning a decent profit. As long as you do serious tenant pre-screening and have a solid property manager, buying something similar could be a good idea. The latter, we are house-hacking and LOVE living in, but it was not the best deal —owning near the river leads to high flood-insurance that really eats at our profit margin. Because of insurance cost, the house was slightly discounted (and move-in ready), but I generally have found that MFH’s in a decent area are way overpriced in Norfolk. I agree with Patti ☝🏼 that Portsmouth is less desirable to purchase buy and hold in. 

  • Patti RobertsonBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Brittany Regts - Have you heard of Mike Vernon?  He is our local flood insurance expert.  He sells flood insurance, teaches agent CE classes on flood, and most importantly, owns a flood mitigation company that recommends alterations to your property that significanty reduce your flood insurance premiums.  As long as you are not on a crawl, it is highly likly you can make some alterations to reduce your risk, and thus your premium.  Here is an article the paper wrote about him in the paper a few years ago.  https://pilotonline.com/business/consumer/article_a1b8ddca-3e53-5d0f-b906-ff625de245cb.html

    And here is a link to his company website.  http://www.floodmitigationhr.com/about-us/company/

  • Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2017 · 19 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    Thanks, Patti! I’ll reach out to him!

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