( Spectrum REI ) HM funding SCAM🚩. *Warning to new investors*

( Spectrum REI ) HM funding SCAM🚩. *Warning to new investors*

Rental Property Investor · Gilmer tx · Member since 2018 · 87 posts · 21 votes

This is the exact random text that I recently received on Thursday...

⬇️(TEXT FROM Spectrum REI)⬇️

" This is Nick from Spectrum and I'm trying to connect with you in regards to the $150k REI Lines and $2 Million in Real Estate Private Money you are qualified for. When are you free for a call?

👌Of course I responded I'm "free now let's talk".

The guy sounded super legit over the phone. He definitely knew the real estate investing lingo. He was super helpful with the processing of my information. I had no problem sending him all three PDF files of my 3 credit report because I keep a credit lock & high alert fraud victim to keep out Financial predators that way no one can breach access. If you're going to invest in real estate this is a must. your information is out there much more than the average person. Without a credit monitoring system you are asking for it.

Anyways he contacts me back on Friday as I expected. The first thing he says is......

📞(Nick from Spectrum)⬇️

🗣"GOOD NEWS Ty you're definitely approved! I got you 40,000 in a real estate line of credit with 0% interest and 1 million in hard money for fix and flips all repair costs covered. The 0% interest on the LOC will run out in one year's time, soon as it runs out all I will have to do is restart the clock and it will go back to 0%. I'm about to send you all three numbers to the credit bureaus, that way you can call them and have them take down your fraud alert system. Just communicate with them and they will easily work with you to take it down. Soon as your fraud alert system is down it will take up to 6 days to start receiving line of credit." You will be issued multiple credit cards and a checkbook that way you can cover any closing cost, fees or down Payments without having to dip into your own cash".

• I'm just thinking how do you think I got my credit so good. I'm the one that put the credit lock up lol I got Equifax ,TransUnion and Experian on speed dial.

let's do some research on this future business partner. It's human nature to be excited about this kind of stuff. But a good investor never lets there emotions do the thinking for them.

▪1st red flag 🚩 That was the easiest approval I've ever had in my life. I know my credit scores are good but, damn lol

▪2nd red flag 🚩 online research- these guys are practically a ghost company they have no face of the business ,the website is literally two and a half pages. I'll let you check that one out for yourself, it's pretty low level lol

https://spectrumrei.com/

Chromie 3rd grade website🚩 , a total of one friend and one like on Facebook🚩

. they have the website connected to Better Business Bureau. With three positive reviews from 3 people only stating first names. All three reviews with a simple statement saying that they had a positive encounter 0 specifics other than one made 60,000🤷‍♂️ not sure how but he's made 60k lol

Then I come acrossed a negative review on Cix.com, of course right away automatically i knew that is where they got my information.

Apparently the same thing happened to another investor but he clearly did not do his research before joining their team. they issued him multiple credit cards for the line of credit. He states that all of the credit cards were fake that the money was never there when it came to closing the deal and Promises were never kept.

I then go back and try contacting Nick once again. Tried calling a few times, no answer. So I send a text

•(MY ACTUAL TXT SENT TO NICK)⬇️

"I definitely dont mind doing business with the smaller companies what so ever. I just want to get to know a future partner a bit before I jump in to business with them. The same go with you guys. Spectrum would never jump in to business with a investor with out checking credit. My intention are very positive"

Hours go by with no response at this time I'm very concerned and in straight investigator mode. I tried calling multiple times left 2 voice messages• I finally get fed up & send them a text message saying they have till 6pm to give me a positive phone call Validating their information ,NMLS number an overall positive partnership. I told them if they cannot validate I would ruin their scam business and tell the world exactly what I'm telling them now lol stating that I am not a person that they want to mess with, that I have connections an overall a person that people will listen to because I can be validated.

Just as I expected not long after I receive a phone call from Nick's "business associates"
 boy was he angry 😂. I told him calm down all you have to do is prove to me that you are legitimate business, I want to see proof of success from people that you have funded to. I at least want to know your last name, where you're from and maybe a few references that can validate you. Literally the only thing he was focused on was the fact that I said I would ruin his scam business if he would not validate and the fact that I told his associate not to F with me. His only reason for calling was to tell me he will not do business with me, he doesn't have to tell me anything. He was pretty damn angry 😂.
It was a very simple task all he had to do was show me facts and proved that he wasn't a hard money lending scammer. I showed him my information to validate myself and abilities, you show me yours, its basic 101 partnership agreements .

that would be like me saying "hey man I need a loan but I'm definitely not going to give you my information or allow you to check my credit I just simply need you to trust me" debtthat lenders going to tell you to get lost.. 

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
7y

they are all scammers  legit lenders don't direct market like that..   these loans done exits.. its a scam as you said I wrote a blog on the more common ones here on BP

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  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    7y

    they are all scammers  legit lenders don't direct market like that..   these loans done exits.. its a scam as you said I wrote a blog on the more common ones here on BP

  • Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    I know you mean well,@Ty Ottaberry, but with due respect, you’re playing with fire. You knew from the start that these guys are scammers and you still gave them your personal credit information? Locked or not, this is still valuable data. Within the layers of protection you should maintain on your personal credit, confidentially is at or near the top. It’s hard to hurt you with what they don’t know. Nor is there likely much you could actually do to them.

    Whether they believe it or not, it’s extremely unlikely you could ruin their business scam. I assume you know that. It’s even more doubtful you could take their website down. Your safest defense is to ignore these phone calls and texts just as you probably don’t respond to the calls we all now seem to receive from the IRS, Social Security Administration, and insurance companies.

    Don’t ever think you’re smarter than these people. A lot of investors are getting seriously hurt by scoundrels like these. I know you mean well, but it’s best not to play with them.  Nothing good could come of it. 

  • Realtor · Southeast Michigan · Member since 2017 · 232 posts · 180 votes
    7y

    As @Jay Hinrichs said, its a scam.  If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Gilmer tx · Member since 2018 · 87 posts · 21 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jeff S.:

    I know you mean well,@Ty Ottaberry, but with due respect, you’re playing with fire. You knew from the start that these guys are scammers and you still gave them your personal credit information? Locked or not, this is still valuable data. Within the layers of protection you should maintain on your personal credit, confidentially is at or near the top. It’s hard to hurt you with what they don’t know. Nor is there likely much you could actually do to them.

    Whether they believe it or not, it’s extremely unlikely you could ruin their business scam. I assume you know that. It’s even more doubtful you could take their website down. Your safest defense is to ignore these phone calls and texts just as you probably don’t respond to the calls we all now seem to receive from the IRS, Social Security Administration, and insurance companies.

    Don’t ever think you’re smarter than these people. A lot of investors are getting seriously hurt by scoundrels like these. I know you mean well, but it’s best not to play with them.  Nothing good could come of it. 

    thanks Jeff I agree with you 100% 

  • Real Estate Agent · Member since 2018 · 37 posts · 26 votes
    6y

    I am glad to have found this posting. I've been in communication with Nick from Spectrum and he does sound legitimate. It's indeed almost too good to be true. Their methods for obtaining unsecure loans and LOC I've never heard before, but they sounded legit. They have asked to check my 3 credit reports. No W-2, No tax returns, No other proof of income, just a minimum credit score of 660 requirement. I've actually shared more information that I would liked to at this point with Spectrum. They were recommended through a broker I've been working with who put me in contact with Nick. I truly don't know their legitimacy at this point. The event that raised the hairs in the back of my neck was when he asked me for my bank accounts log in information. It seemed very strange to me. Needless to say, I am no longer going to continue doing business with them.

  • Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    So I am currently working with Spectrum REI, all of the aforementioned reviews are accurate but of course, everyone's experience is different, here's mine:

    1. I did feel like it was very invasive for Brian to log into my personal accounts to do balance transfers and all of that other stuff. 

    2. The credit score thing with not using Experian and TransUnion was a little off. So was paying for the service that I quickly unsubscribed from. 

    3. Essentially what they do is get you funds doing balance transfers on credit cards, a common practice within REI. I got three cards (Commerce Bank - $6k, Citi - $6k, and Chase - $13k) for $25k total. I paid them $2500 for $25k essentially.

    4. They use Lime One Capital as their lender with a 5/1 ARM. Essentially, after 5 years, you are to refinance because the interest rate will adjust. I have never done a 5/1 ARM so I can't get into specifics.

    4a. When I put an offer in on one house, the buyer said that they don't accept Lima One Capital because in the past, it didn't operate how they wanted. 

    5. As far as the website, it lacks detail and can be off-putting to a first-time investor. I had some industry knowledge and could talk to Nick over the phone about things and get a clear understanding. 

    6. Nick is Nick, nothing great or bad. I mainly asked him 'yes' or 'no' questions. When I asked anything else, he answered and didn't hold anything back. Nick is not very proactive when it comes to communication, on a few occasions I would have to reach out to him to get an answer or reach out to Brian to get him to reply to me. 

    7. Brian is the funding guy who does the balance transfer. He comes off as a helpful and results-focused guy. He would help me in getting in touch with Nick and was better at communication. 

    In Conclusion: What they do is not BAD, it just doesn't run in a way that they can scale up and get more positive reviews. If you're looking to get some capital to invest, they're good for that. I wouldn't recommend them to a first-time investor. I also wouldn't seek funding from them for a mortgage because they work with Lima One Capital. I'm not going to talk down on their business but simply want to provide my experience. 

  • Rental Property Investor · TN · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Branden Bufford:

    So I am currently working with Spectrum REI, all of the aforementioned reviews are accurate but of course, everyone's experience is different, here's mine:

    1. I did feel like it was very invasive for Brian to log into my personal accounts to do balance transfers and all of that other stuff. 

    2. The credit score thing with not using Experian and TransUnion was a little off. So was paying for the service that I quickly unsubscribed from. 

    3. Essentially what they do is get you funds doing balance transfers on credit cards, a common practice within REI. I got three cards (Commerce Bank - $6k, Citi - $6k, and Chase - $13k) for $25k total. I paid them $2500 for $25k essentially.

    4. They use Lime One Capital as their lender with a 5/1 ARM. Essentially, after 5 years, you are to refinance because the interest rate will adjust. I have never done a 5/1 ARM so I can't get into specifics.

    4a. When I put an offer in on one house, the buyer said that they don't accept Lima One Capital because in the past, it didn't operate how they wanted. 

    5. As far as the website, it lacks detail and can be off-putting to a first-time investor. I had some industry knowledge and could talk to Nick over the phone about things and get a clear understanding. 

    6. Nick is Nick, nothing great or bad. I mainly asked him 'yes' or 'no' questions. When I asked anything else, he answered and didn't hold anything back. Nick is not very proactive when it comes to communication, on a few occasions I would have to reach out to him to get an answer or reach out to Brian to get him to reply to me. 

    7. Brian is the funding guy who does the balance transfer. He comes off as a helpful and results-focused guy. He would help me in getting in touch with Nick and was better at communication. 

    In Conclusion: What they do is not BAD, it just doesn't run in a way that they can scale up and get more positive reviews. If you're looking to get some capital to invest, they're good for that. I wouldn't recommend them to a first-time investor. I also wouldn't seek funding from them for a mortgage because they work with Lima One Capital. I'm not going to talk down on their business but simply want to provide my experience. 

    I hope you have gone back and changed every password on every account.  They can do anything later without you knowing it until you get the next bill...and they can even change you mailing address so you do not get the bill!  Also change all your recovery questions and answers.

    Never give that info out.  Let them tell you what to do and you do it!

  • Member since 2021 · 1 post · 0 votes
    5y

    I agree with Branden. Spectrum was able to get me about 60k towards the end of last year. The process took a little longer than expected, but overall Dom, Nick and Brian were very helpful. It is a non-traditional way of receiving funding, but it works. Everyone's experience is different, but mine wasn't bad at all.

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