Sell to take advantage of crazy market? Strategy for beyond?

Sell to take advantage of crazy market? Strategy for beyond?

Member since 2017 · 28 posts · 8 votes
Hi BP experts! I am just getting back into the world of real estate investing after a 15-year (and 4 kid...) hiatus.  Never intended to let this much time pass, but alas, it has and now 15 years later my 'runway' in terms of creating large cash-flow is much shorter than it used to be.  I am trying to determine my path forward given 1) my much shortened timeframe to retirement needs, and 2) the state of the current market where prices are mostly insanely high.  My priorities are CASH FLOW, and as QUICK (relatively speaking) as possible.

I own 2 4-plexes in the Tacoma, WA market.  Both are in need of updating and new roofs.  I have about $450k equity in each building.  They cash flow, but I don't know if I should: 1) re-fi to get some cash out, make the updates and hold 2) sell to take advantage of current market condition....but if I did, my questions/hesitations are Will I find a larger deal in this climate that will cash-flow more than the 2 older 4-plexes which I have owned for about 15 years now???  Will I regret selling?  Is my best path to passive cash flow, as quickly as possible, taking all the equity and trying to buy a larger multi-family? Or something different?  Should I sell and then wait to buy until the market inevitably corrects?

Thank you for any insights or guidance, and my apologies for so many questions....just can't wrap my head around the best path and have been out-of-the-game for a long time and am therefore nervous/have lost confidence.

Thanks again, Laura


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Realtor · Bellevue, WA · Member since 2019 · 882 posts · 1k+ votes
5y

@Laura MacDonald, it depends on many factors.

If you currently have a good cash flow because you bought long time ago, and mortgage is pretty low, you may think about keeping it.

If cash flow is not that good, it might be a good idea to sell while the market is pretty hot. This will allow to potentially skip doing some of the major/costly rehabs like replacing the roof

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  • Brad HammondBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Portland, OR · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 605 votes
    5y

    Hi @Laura MacDonald, the good a bad news is there is no "correct" answer.  In my opinion, I would sell the properties and level up.  The reason for that is if your property needs upgrades, being in a very competitive market is the best time to sell a property like that.  If you think a correction is coming, imagine trying to sell it then!  I also think that getting as much low-cost debt right now is really going to pay off in the long run.  You will be locking in these low-interest rates, hedging against inflation, and putting the $900k of equity to work instead of not doing anything.  

    While you probably won't get a good deal on your next property, there are a lot of other factors to consider. Also take a look at properties further south and east of you for better cash flow if that is important to you.  

  • Aaron NelsonBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Seattle, WA · Member since 2016 · 307 posts · 191 votes
    5y

    Hey @Laura MacDonald - Congrats on owning two fourplexes in one of the hottest housing markets in the nation! A few questions for you:

    1) What part of Tacoma are the fourplexes located in? 
    2) What are your cashflow goals and your timeline for achieving them?
    3) What will your Return On Equity be after making the updates and putting on new roofs? 

    Some investors will buy a few properties and just sit on them until they are paid off…but a lot more will climb the investor ladder and move onto larger deals after they develop their skill sets with their first handful of 1-4 unit properties. My wife and I traded a duplex in Tacoma for a value add 30 unit apartment complex and are happy we did.

    Anyway, happy to chat with you further if you’re interested. 

  • Realtor · Bellevue, WA · Member since 2019 · 882 posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Laura MacDonald, it depends on many factors.

    If you currently have a good cash flow because you bought long time ago, and mortgage is pretty low, you may think about keeping it.

    If cash flow is not that good, it might be a good idea to sell while the market is pretty hot. This will allow to potentially skip doing some of the major/costly rehabs like replacing the roof

  • Member since 2021 · 18 posts · 22 votes
    5y

    great time to sell so you have cash on hand for the upcoming correction or crash its coming always does

  • Alecia LovelessPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Laura MacDonald I’ve been going back and forth on a property, keep or sell as it’s appreciated by a lot. It would take me about 12 years in rents to make back what it’s appreciated in the last 14 months. But I could refinance it or just have a nice cash flow coming in. So many options.

    Tonight I asked my partner her opinion because I’ve got another project I want to pursue and I laid out the cost benefits of the options for her and she said hands down sell, you don’t know what will happen 12 years from now.

    You can pursue the other option, have much better cash flow, and not have to worry about another loan.

    If I were you I’d look toward the future and sell and 1031 up to a larger property with more cash flow. It’ll be better for your retirement and provide more financial security down the road.

    If your not comfortable going too big look a little bigger for something that’s $5000 more a month cash flow or something. A 12 unit. A 16 unit.

    Best of luck!

  • Dave FosterBusiness Member
    Qualified Intermediary for 1031 Exchanges · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    5y

    @Laura MacDonald, unfortunately you're not going to recapture much benefit from those looming cap expenses in a sale. So if you decide to go the route of paying for the improvements you probably want to have the mindset to then hold for the long term. So that should make you look at actual NOI very closely.

    Since you're in an incredible sellers market selling your properties will not be the problem.  Finding your replacement will.  So see if you can find a good replacement before you even put our old properties on the market.  You can go into contract for your new property before you sell your old property.  And we have many clients who will actually get their replacement under contract before selling their old property.  Taking the next step of trying to find a good replacement will tell you a lot about the market.

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