Can We Put An End To This Co-GP Nonesense

Can We Put An End To This Co-GP Nonesense

Stuart UdisPro Member
Attorney · Philadelphia · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes

We need to have a serious conversation about the overuse of Co-GP titles in multifamily syndications. There was just a post from someone who described themselves as handling acquisitions and diligence while looking to “align” with others to fill the remaining roles in a 10–30 unit syndication. The post was removed shortly after going live, likely because it belonged in the classifieds. But the underlying issue is far more important than where it was posted.

If you source a deal, collect a finder’s fee or a brokerage commission.

If you advance deposit or escrow funds, structure it as a reimbursable advance with a fee or preferred return. (Not to mention the GP should be capable of funding escrows themselves).

If you assist with management or operations, collect a management fee or a consulting fee.

None of these roles require a General Partner title. The Co-GP designation should be reserved for individuals who can actually carry a syndication. Instead, GP titles are increasingly used as a substitute or as additional compensation. Those titles are then recycled into bios, websites, and pitch decks to imply operating experience that does not exist. This creates a distorted marketplace where perceived track records are inflated and investors are misled.

There is no operational, legal, or economic justification for awarding GP titles for tasks that can be clearly defined, properly compensated, and fully disclosed as services. Earning fees, gaining experience, and learning the business are all legitimate paths. But conflating service roles with sponsorship is unhealthy for the industry. Clear roles, clear compensation, and honest disclosures protect everyone involved, especially investors.

Until we stop inflating résumés with deceptive titles, these problems will continue to repeat themselves.

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Rental Property Investor · St. Paul, MN · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
9mo

I get where you're going and agree to an extent. The guys and gals going around touting that they own $300mm in real estate, but really own 1% of $300mm is the issue. That's just plain deceitful. 

The practice of gaining ownership based on doing certain things is not the issue. That is good for both the GP and the Co-GP. If someone finds a deal and wants to keep a small portion of the ownership profits, good for them. If they bring other value and want a slice of the pie instead of a commission, that's great. If it works for the GP and that person, then it's a win for everyone, just be honest with your role. 

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  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    9mo

    I agree. But it is not going away. It is no different than every sales and marketing person typically has a vice president title
    the reality is these people are just consultants. It's like a development deal in considering your engineers and architects as partners. Even if you gave them a small equity component that does not mean that the architect has a skill to manage a construction project

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  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9mo

    Seriously... just form a fund of funds and call yourself the GP. :). Why "share" the title when you don't need to.

    That being said, collecting fees/commissions for transacting and/or managing real estate often requires an active real estate license.  

    But let's just say, anyone that even touts themselves as a GP, let alone co-GP, is actually doing many people a service.  This is a clear indication of a novice investor, who doesn't even know where to start, and is more concerned with trying to sound neat, while being focused on titles over performance.

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Paul, MN · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9mo

    I get where you're going and agree to an extent. The guys and gals going around touting that they own $300mm in real estate, but really own 1% of $300mm is the issue. That's just plain deceitful. 

    The practice of gaining ownership based on doing certain things is not the issue. That is good for both the GP and the Co-GP. If someone finds a deal and wants to keep a small portion of the ownership profits, good for them. If they bring other value and want a slice of the pie instead of a commission, that's great. If it works for the GP and that person, then it's a win for everyone, just be honest with your role. 

    • Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2021 · 782 posts · 505 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Todd Dexheimer:

      I get where you're going and agree to an extent. The guys and gals going around touting that they own $300mm in real estate, but really own 1% of $300mm is the issue. That's just plain deceitful. 

      The practice of gaining ownership based on doing certain things is not the issue. That is good for both the GP and the Co-GP. If someone finds a deal and wants to keep a small portion of the ownership profits, good for them. If they bring other value and want a slice of the pie instead of a commission, that's great. If it works for the GP and that person, then it's a win for everyone, just be honest with your role. 


       Instead of touting AUM as a data point there should be another term used... Maybe AAUM "Actual Assets Under Management" or AEUM "Actual Equity Under Management" to share how much is actually owned by an individual. Ha!

  • Real Estate Broker · NY · Member since 2022 · 14 posts · 0 votes
    9mo

    100%! Hope all is well man!

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