Finding Multifamily with Cashflow in Los Angeles

Finding Multifamily with Cashflow in Los Angeles

Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 36 posts · 12 votes

Hey BP members,

So there’s a lot of talk these days about how multifamily properties with strong cash flow in Los Angeles are just about nonexistent. Well, I’m going to try to change your mind on that, and make a case for investing in apartments South LA (yes, the one, the only, the infamous, South Central LA)!

I’m sure most of you have a certain picture of South Central LA in your mind, and it’s probably not a pretty one. That’s still the case for most investors out there, and I think this presents an opportunity for investors looking to find affordable apartment buildings with potential for solid appreciation in the near future. Because of that not-so-pretty picture most investors have in their mind, the first word that comes out of their mouths when they’re offered an investment in South LA is a big fat NO. Here’s where your opportunity lies: this immediate rejection of the idea causes these others to overlook some pretty significant changes happening in South LA that (in my humble opinion) are the first signs of transformation.

Here are the signs:

1) The Crenshaw/LAX Metro line is on track to be finished in 2019. This line will start off the Exposition Line in the West Adams neighborhood, and head all the way down to LAX. This will take it through many of the neighborhoods in South LA that are most in need of revitalization, and the construction will bring jobs, accessibility, and desirability to South LA.

2) Metro also just received a $15,000,000 grant to transform underused railroad tracks along Slauson Ave. into a 6.4 mile long walking and biking trail. The trail will start at the Crenshaw line, and run west along Slauson Ave. to eventually connect with the LA river. This path takes this major urban improvement right through South LA.

3) The Vermont Entertainment Village is scheduled to open Winter 2016, in the Vermont Knolls neighborhood of South LA. This center will be a major lifestyle shopping center (along the lines of The Grove and other outdoor malls throughout LA), and is being built on land that used to house shops that were burned out in the LA Riots in the 90’s. To me, The Village marks the healing of a major wound for South LA, and will help revitalize an area that has stagnated for twenty years.

Now, these signs alone aren’t (or at least probably shouldn’t) be enough to send you charging into South LA with your offer-signing pens blazing. But, I think they signal a strong reason to take advantage of these enticing aspects of multifamily housing South LA:

1) Unparalleled cash flow for the LA area. There are quite a few buildings on the market in the area with CAP rates in the 8-10% range (which should make most LA investors feel all tingly inside).

2) Accessible pricing, ranging from as low as the $300k’s to about $1.2 Million. These prices (on average) sit well below almost all other areas of LA.

3) The chance to beat gentrification. As South LA continues to develop and revitalize, investors who buy in the near future will find themselves the beneficiaries of the significant appreciation in value that accompanies redevelopment. So, in five-ten years, you may be feeling the way investors in Mid-Cities, Koreatown, and other areas are feeling today.

So, I hope this post entices you to take a look at South LA if you’re looking for multifamily with strong cash flow and potential for appreciation in the LA area. Of course, investing in this area still requires thought for you as an investor, to determine if you’re willing to take on the challenges that are unique to South LA. Do your research, and especially concentrate on finding a management company who has demonstrated strong experience in the area, so that you know you have a team in place that can provide the expertise the area demands. But, if you’re an investor who wants to be on the forefront of emerging markets and you’re willing to assume the risks that accompany this, South LA may be for you.

That’s all, folks. Now I want to hear from YOU! Let me know if you think this opportunity is as ripe as I do, or if you think I’m off my rocker. As always, don’t hesitate to reach out with questions on any part of this post.

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Contractor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
10y
15M does not bring nothing by the time Metro disburses that. However, I believe you are on tract with Metro-LAX, personally I believe wherever they have those landing sites where LAX users unload passengers, it is a good area, and there are 8 of them. Their new rail line is very large.
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  • Claremont, CA · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 2 votes
    10y
    Kevin Crosson that's so weird that you mentioned this because my co-worker talked about how south LA is having a drastic change and feels the same as you do with the potential growth in the upcoming years. So with that said, I totally agree with you! Great post!
  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 42 posts · 10 votes
    10y

    This is great info. I put an offer in on a South LA investment property TODAY actually - So glad to know I'm not alone! lol South Central for the win!

  • Contractor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y
    15M does not bring nothing by the time Metro disburses that. However, I believe you are on tract with Metro-LAX, personally I believe wherever they have those landing sites where LAX users unload passengers, it is a good area, and there are 8 of them. Their new rail line is very large.
  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 36 posts · 12 votes
    10y

    @Christian Tacto Glad to know other people are seeing what I say. @Courtney M. That is AWESOME! Congrats! Hope it's accepted. And @Manolo D. I actually had the same thought when I saw the $15M. It won't get the project finished, but these types of urban improvement projects are rarely fully funded up front, so I'm looking at it as another sign of commitment (especially by Metro) to invest in the South LA area.

  • Contractor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Kevin Crosson Metros participation has nothing to do with anything, it is an offshoot budget from a partnership with LAX expansion, they are forced to participate to increase foot traffic with LAX's Automatic People Movers gig. 15M to Metro could only be one building, maybe less. Metro projects won't bring jobs, union contracts have their own crew, it will bring temporary business while construction is on-going, never jobs. And 15M only makes up 6 months to finish, especially for a biking trail.

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    Rental Property Investor · St Augustine, FL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Kevin Crosson

    Hi Kevin,

    You've done what most of us investors haven't.  You have researched the market, completed a study and actually have numbers backing up your proposal.  You have convinced yourself.  Now al that's left is to take action and start buying, which is the scary part ( I know).  

    Good Luck

    Gino

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 42 posts · 10 votes
    10y

    @Manolo D.- I think the point is that money is being invested in an area where there are great deals right now. And not to mention - the RAMS will be playing at USC for the next 3 seasons. Even if these things aren't exactly correlated with immediate property value increase - like say a new state of the art elementary school would be - they are still important factors to consider. Especially when it comes to identifying up and coming markets, before it's too late and you get priced out of them.

  • Contractor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y
    Courtney M. My point was, there will be more business opportunities especially on a land value when you know where major developments will be, and not based on a bike trail. I am saying there are 4 locations where "major" key points are going based on public announcements data, so it is better to invest in those areas vs a bike trail. The OP is trying to say that the 15M is enough to consider investing in that area, I say there is a more desirable areas if you are only basing on government money spent, I see some 200+M in one building or maybe a parking structure, that is worth buying and holding, perhaps an Airbnb MF or corporate housing, or airline industry clients. You'll be buying more than premium but if you know where people go in/out, it will be more valuable.
  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 36 posts · 12 votes
    10y

    I definitely agree that one $15M investment on its own wouldn't be enough to justify investment. But, it's an important piece of the puzzle.

  • Lender · Milpitas, CA · Member since 2016 · 376 posts · 248 votes
    10y

    @Kevin Crosson Great analysis! I agree with a lot of your points, but I also want to remind you that most of South LA is under rent control, which limits your ability to raise rents or change tenants. Good luck with your investment!

  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 95 posts · 46 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Kevin Crosson:

    Hey BP members,

    So there’s a lot of talk these days about how multifamily properties with strong cash flow in Los Angeles are just about nonexistent. Well, I’m going to try to change your mind on that, and make a case for investing in apartments South LA (yes, the one, the only, the infamous, South Central LA)!

    I’m sure most of you have a certain picture of South Central LA in your mind, and it’s probably not a pretty one. That’s still the case for most investors out there, and I think this presents an opportunity for investors looking to find affordable apartment buildings with potential for solid appreciation in the near future. Because of that not-so-pretty picture most investors have in their mind, the first word that comes out of their mouths when they’re offered an investment in South LA is a big fat NO. Here’s where your opportunity lies: this immediate rejection of the idea causes these others to overlook some pretty significant changes happening in South LA that (in my humble opinion) are the first signs of transformation.

    Here are the signs:

    1) The Crenshaw/LAX Metro line is on track to be finished in 2019. This line will start off the Exposition Line in the West Adams neighborhood, and head all the way down to LAX. This will take it through many of the neighborhoods in South LA that are most in need of revitalization, and the construction will bring jobs, accessibility, and desirability to South LA.

    2) Metro also just received a $15,000,000 grant to transform underused railroad tracks along Slauson Ave. into a 6.4 mile long walking and biking trail. The trail will start at the Crenshaw line, and run west along Slauson Ave. to eventually connect with the LA river. This path takes this major urban improvement right through South LA.

    3) The Vermont Entertainment Village is scheduled to open Winter 2016, in the Vermont Knolls neighborhood of South LA. This center will be a major lifestyle shopping center (along the lines of The Grove and other outdoor malls throughout LA), and is being built on land that used to house shops that were burned out in the LA Riots in the 90’s. To me, The Village marks the healing of a major wound for South LA, and will help revitalize an area that has stagnated for twenty years.

    Now, these signs alone aren’t (or at least probably shouldn’t) be enough to send you charging into South LA with your offer-signing pens blazing. But, I think they signal a strong reason to take advantage of these enticing aspects of multifamily housing South LA:

    1) Unparalleled cash flow for the LA area. There are quite a few buildings on the market in the area with CAP rates in the 8-10% range (which should make most LA investors feel all tingly inside).

    2) Accessible pricing, ranging from as low as the $300k’s to about $1.2 Million. These prices (on average) sit well below almost all other areas of LA.

    3) The chance to beat gentrification. As South LA continues to develop and revitalize, investors who buy in the near future will find themselves the beneficiaries of the significant appreciation in value that accompanies redevelopment. So, in five-ten years, you may be feeling the way investors in Mid-Cities, Koreatown, and other areas are feeling today.

    So, I hope this post entices you to take a look at South LA if you’re looking for multifamily with strong cash flow and potential for appreciation in the LA area. Of course, investing in this area still requires thought for you as an investor, to determine if you’re willing to take on the challenges that are unique to South LA. Do your research, and especially concentrate on finding a management company who has demonstrated strong experience in the area, so that you know you have a team in place that can provide the expertise the area demands. But, if you’re an investor who wants to be on the forefront of emerging markets and you’re willing to assume the risks that accompany this, South LA may be for you.

    That’s all, folks. Now I want to hear from YOU! Let me know if you think this opportunity is as ripe as I do, or if you think I’m off my rocker. As always, don’t hesitate to reach out with questions on any part of this post.

    Hi Kevin,

    south LA receive a lot of attention these days, lots of speculation; but let me tell you something, we've worked in this area for the past 6 years, and have seen absolutely no positive changes. I would even argue that it is getting worst. Most of south LA is section 8 and rent controlled buildings, so the crowd stays the same. Lots of dirt, squatters, drug trafficking, cars burning, all kind of illegal businesses, evictions, dramas etc. The local authorities do not give a f*** about what's happening in this part of the city and any attemps to draw their attention on local issues is useless. The police, the building and safety, etc all administrations in south LA are highly disfunctional and neglecting. Yes, the new metro, the new stadium but i'm very sceptical about south LA being gentrified in the near future. The beneficiary will be Inglewood but not south LA. 

    Everything east of Crenshaw and south of the 10 should be no investment zone with a few exceptions around USC and a few other pockets. Any change if it ever happens will take decades. Even Silverlake, mid city aren't really gentrified so betting on South LA gentrification is pretty far stretched imo 

    also be aware that at each recession / market dip these poor districts gets hammered very hard and get loads of foreclosures, hence the higher cap rates  

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