Rental Property Investor · Dunedin, FL · Member since 2015 · 121 posts · 61 votes
Hi all- my very first deal, and it's been a roller coaster. Bought a house at auction, turns out to have a mold problem inside and asbestos shingles outside, and pretty crappy construction, but a prime location and double lot.
Have met with a high-end developer who proposes I bring the land (once I've torn down the house) and he brings the clients and design/GC/development. I would get market value for my land, he'd get his 18% markup on construction costs for the houses, and we'd split any profit over and above that 50/50. He's extremely well regarded in this area and has done some beautiful work.
I think it's a great option for me to make a little bit of profit off the land and then learn a whole other side of the business (watching him do the development) and maybe make a bit more money depending on how it goes. He's got several clients ready to build in the area if he finds a location for them. He's done a similar mini-neighborhood nearby and it's been a real success. He told me- you find the lots, I will build on them. It all sounds really interesting to me.
Am I overlooking something here? Would LOVE some opinions and suggestions on how else to look at this.
Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
11y
Same thoughts as @J Scott. Assuming you paid cash, he's looking at the two of you putting the land up as the"equity", and financing the construction, which of course will place a mortgage on the land.
Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
11y
Same thoughts as @J Scott. Assuming you paid cash, he's looking at the two of you putting the land up as the"equity", and financing the construction, which of course will place a mortgage on the land.
Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2013 · 212 posts · 107 votes
11y
18% is a rich cut to give him before splitting profits. You're basically financing his land cost by contributing it at market value if you don't get paid until the end. I did a similar deal recently and contributed the land in exchange for pro rata profit split based on cash builder put in for build costs.
Rental Property Investor · Dunedin, FL · Member since 2015 · 121 posts · 61 votes
11y
The clients building the homes would finance the construction. He doesn't put any money into the deal, he oversees the design, permitting, construction etc. and adds 18% onto the construction costs. I figure I will end up valuing my land (purchased cash) at around market value, which would be about an 15% profit over what I will be all in for once I add up the cost at auction, legal and recording fees, and the demo.
He wouldn't buy the land from me, it would be bought, as I understand it, by the individual client who wants to build on lot A or B or C. thanks for the questions, it's helping me think through this. Having been in real estate investing for about 20 minutes, this is all new!
Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
11y
If the land is local, feel free to shoot me a PM or an email and I can probably help you with numbers and ideas. I live in Ellicott City and have built new construction here...
Rental Property Investor · Dunedin, FL · Member since 2015 · 121 posts · 61 votes
11y
Thanks J. The land in question is in Tampa Bay but we also have some land in EC that I might like to discuss with you- will send you a PM assuming I can figure it out....
@Account Closed I didn't understand what "pro rata profit split based on cash builder put in for build costs." means- this is a whole other language!
Other ideas on deal structuring are welcome- I may be doing some more of this land getting for him.
thanks to all- I started reading BP and J's books about 4 months ago and now here I am, about to go look at my second investment property, a rental. What a resource!