Build your own pension with Turnkey Rentals

Build your own pension with Turnkey Rentals

Rental Property Investor · Mansfield, OH · Member since 2017 · 151 posts · 117 votes

Since 1998, there has been a 44% drop in Fortune 500 companies offering pensions; instead pushing their employees to manage their retirement themselves through a 401K or other management investment vehicle [Source: Towers Waters]

I was in that situation. I had a corporate job and was contributing to an IRA to ensure that I had something to live off of but also saw significant losses during the crash a few years back. I also had local rentals but couldn't manage more and keep my full time job so decided to start investigating turnkey rentals. As part of a bus tour weekend a few years back, my turnkey provider taught that investors can fund their own pension. Check out this scenario:

  • You buy 5 homes with an average cost of $60k
  • The rent is rolled over to buy another each time you hit $60K
  • Assume a 3% appreciation
  • What would you have in 15 years…? 30 years?
  • Initial Value - $300,000

    Initial Investment – 5 Houses

    Net Monthly Rent = $2,500

    After 15 Years

    - Value: $1,900,000

    - Number of Houses: 23

    - Net Monthly Rent = $11,000

    After 30 Years:

    - Value: $15,000,000

    - Number of House: 97

    - Net Monthly Rent = $44,000

    I am in year 4 of this exact journey. My wife and I now have 8 homes using our Turnkey provider and average $4k/month in income replenishing a self directed IRA to fund additional rentals all completely hands off. Turnkey rental investors don't have to deal with toilets or tenants and while there is no turnkey company that can guarantee 100% occupancy and no maintenance issues, I've been getting steady high rates and will continue to go back for more. In some instances you won't make as high of a return as you would if you manage the properties yourself but when your situation doesn't permit taking on more, consider using a turnkey company to increase your portfolio.

    So if you start this plan today, would you be in a different tax bracket after 5 years? 10? How about 15 or 30 years? Does building your own pension and not relying on the stock market sound like something that would interest you? How are you protecting your future?

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    • Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
      9y
      Originally posted by @Hank Keller:

      Since 1998, there has been a 44% drop in Fortune 500 companies offering pensions; instead pushing their employees to manage their retirement themselves through a 401K or other management investment vehicle [Source: Towers Waters]

      I was in that situation. I had a corporate job and was contributing to an IRA to ensure that I had something to live off of but also saw significant losses during the crash a few years back. I also had local rentals but couldn't manage more and keep my full time job so decided to start investigating turnkey rentals. As part of a bus tour weekend a few years back, my turnkey provider taught that investors can fund their own pension. Check out this scenario:

    • You buy 5 homes with an average cost of $60k
    • The rent is rolled over to buy another each time you hit $60K
    • Assume a 3% appreciation
    • What would you have in 15 years…? 30 years?
    • Initial Value - $300,000

      Initial Investment – 5 Houses

      Net Monthly Rent = $2,500

      After 15 Years

      - Value: $1,900,000

      - Number of Houses: 23

      - Net Monthly Rent = $11,000

      After 30 Years:

      - Value: $15,000,000

      - Number of House: 97

      - Net Monthly Rent = $44,000

      I am in year 4 of this exact journey. My wife and I now have 8 homes using our Turnkey provider and average $4k/month in income replenishing a self directed IRA to fund additional rentals all completely hands off. Turnkey rental investors don't have to deal with toilets or tenants and while there is no turnkey company that can guarantee 100% occupancy and no maintenance issues, I've been getting steady high rates and will continue to go back for more. In some instances you won't make as high of a return as you would if you manage the properties yourself but when your situation doesn't permit taking on more, consider using a turnkey company to increase your portfolio.

      So if you start this plan today, would you be in a different tax bracket after 5 years? 10? How about 15 or 30 years? Does building your own pension and not relying on the stock market sound like something that would interest you? How are you protecting your future?

       There could be an issue assuming 3% appreciation. Most homes I see priced at 60k in 2017 are not in areas that appreciated 3% historically. Many times looking back I find those homes were worth more 10 or 20 years ago inflation adjusted. I think another plan may have better averages of being a retirement fund (hands off no liabilities) if that was shifted to high yield REITs with the same re-investing part you mentioned. Lets say the last 10 years the Reit would have beat it I am almost certain. Good luck!

    • Rental Property Investor · Mansfield, OH · Member since 2017 · 151 posts · 117 votes
      9y

      That's a great point @Matt R. . The homes that I've purchased have been up and coming neighborhoods with home values climbing based on city enhancements. It helps to have a turnkey company that watches local government planning so that the purchase can be done to take advantage of market shifts as I have experienced. I don't expect my results to continue at the current double digit growth I'm experiencing but enjoy it while it's happening. All the Best!

    • Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
      9y

      If you are in the path of progress and gentrification that would help. Some cities have repeatedly failed with past government planning efforts and were unable to make long lasting differences still. It would be interesting to know what those ones you have now were worth 10 and 20 years ago. Some areas are just on the overall decline and there is nothing anyone can do. Then there are some TK operators who seem to work in this declined space as a matter of practice.  Good luck!

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