Master List: Non Owner Occupied/Investor HELOCs

Master List: Non Owner Occupied/Investor HELOCs

Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 15 votes

Have had quite a few conversations with bank with HELOC product available in my market (Twin Cities) and thought others would appreciate an update on this list. Some players pulled out during the pandemic, some were never investment property HELOCs, etc.:



AFCU does 80% LTV on NOO. Utah

Americafirst 80% LTV on noo 65% LTV Utah

Arvest Bank AR, OK, AL, MO

Bank of Southern California

Bank of West (BNP Paribas) 60% LTV ELOCs: They only do 1st position as well so can't have any other mortgage on it. Don't remember their prime rate, but remember thinking its not very competitive (like prime +1.5 or something) particularly for a 60% max.

BankCherokee: Max 2 properties. Prime + 0% (3.5% floor). Max 80% LTV not to exceed $500,000. 6 year term, interest only from Bank Cherokee Checking. Customer pays closing costs. Want at least 1 operating checking with the bank. Greater Minneapolis & St. Paul market only. Also was "open to a discussion about going up to 100% LTV if they could collateralize something else for an extra 20-25% like an investment portfolio so that a buyer could achieve even higher tax efficiency on their borrowing. Contact: Roger Hamilton. https://bankcherokee.com/about... 

BB&T will loan on a rental portfolio

BBVA, now PNC


Bellwether NH and MA 85% to 100%, draw 10 yrs

BMO Harris, 3 HELOCs to 70% LTV

Boeing employee credit union

California: Cal Coast Credit Union and Fremont Bank

Citizens Bank -Minnesota, only in-state. Kyle Potswald. This 1 is legit. If my memory serves me right its a competitive rate (maybe prime +1%?), I think 75% max LTV and they want to see the HELOC cleared regularly (i.e. don't maintain a balance on it all year long and expect them to renew it). Also it has a pretty quick renewal like 1 or 2 years, but if not renewed it converts into a set term somewhere between 5-10 years (so no worry about default/refinancing if they don't renew you). https://www.citizensmn.bank/di... Scroll and you'll see Kyle's info (since rules prohibit posting on here).

Citizens first position HELOC

CMG Financial 70% LTV

Consolidated CCU, high LTV NOO LOC, OR, WA

East West Bank, up to 60% LTV with "no docs”

Figure 80% on a rental, not in LLC

FirstBank CO and AZ 75% LTV

First Florida Credit Union https://firstflorida.cumortgag...

First Commonwealth

First Midwest, up to 75%. First position only. Chicago area

First Tech Federal. Up to 80% if FICO is over 780, no appraisal under $250k value.

First Republic - California

Fulton Bank

GFA Federal Credit Union 10 yr draw, 10 yr repay, MA

Granite State CU, NH 90-100%

Great Lakes Credit Union

Hanscom FCU, Florida:
There is no Hanscom FCU in Florida. They're in Massachusetts. They've never been in the investment property HELOC business and I know that one for sure. That said, they're potentially still the most competitive owner occupied HELOC lender in the marketplace although now increasingly borrowers need to argue with them about values they come back with (they blame it on their desktop underwriting software to save costs, but probably is a desire to put borrowers in a higher rate tier). 

HSBC 70%, for premier clients only

Horizon, Kalamazoo Michigan

Huntington 75% LTV 5 yr IO product available. Someone reported 80%…need confirmation. 
I believe they exited market due to pandemic.

Hurst Lending and Insurance Investment property HELOC in Texas. No seasoning. Bridge, portfolio, foreign national and other specialty loan products.

Key Bank, FLorida flexible lender, HELOCs on second
homes and rental properties. 90% LTV on primary.

Mountain America Credit Union in Utah, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. 85% LTV, promo rate of 1.99%. Can refinance an existing mortgage on investment property to a shorter term “Mini Mortgage.”

Merchants Bank MN See Pavel Ushakov: 
They never had an investment property HELOC. When I provided Pavel's details to them, they said "That is our owner occupied HELOC terms verbatim, but no such product exists for investment properties. Instead they (like many banks) have a BLOC product that is substantially higher interest rate and continually rolling term.

Navy Federal 80% LTV: 
Exited the market due to the pandemic and it sounds like it could be a while before they come back.

PenFed - max 3 other properties, including primary. 80% LTV, prime + 1%, <4 properties. The original major entrant in this market and probably the largest lender in this market overall.

Quorum Federal Credit Union 80% equity, owned by LLC is OK. No limit on number of properties held. 5 year interest only payments. New York State. Tiffany Mazzoccoli. 2021

Regions- yes HELOC but no LOC

Ridge Lending All in One, first position HELOC

River Bank & Trust, AL

SCCU Florida 70% LTV, 6.25% interest only, not LLC

SECU NC 65% LTV rate 2.75% Oct 2021

Signature Federal Credit Union 75% LTV

Silvergate Bank

Sound CU "non-owner occupied HELOC, capped at $150K and interest rates are prime + 2%, 3% or 4%, based on credit, not to exceed 70% ltv."

S&T Pennsylvania

TCF Bank: 
Doesn't exist anymore bought out by Huntington

TD Bank 75% line with FICO about 740

TIAA Direct was EverBank:
 Not in this market. Don't think they ever were.

Torrey Pines Bank

Troy Bank & Trust, AL

Trustco

Union Bank, specializes in noo HELOC. KCMO, NE

Union Bank, MUFG.

Upstate Bank in Rochester NY, LOC up to 80%

US Ba
nk 80%: Either exited due to the pandemic or never were in the investment property HELOC market.

Vectra Bank - Colo

Veritex, Texas HELOC

WellsFargo 60% LTV

Workers Credit Union, MA 80-100%

WSFS...up to 70% on rental

Zions Bank, Utah

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  • Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 15 votes
    4y

    For a clean list for the next time someone wants to update this on the forum:

    AFCU does 80% LTV on NOO. Utah

    Americafirst 80% LTV on noo 65% LTV Utah

    Arvest Bank AR, OK, AL, MO

    Bank of Southern California

    Bank of West (BNP Paribas) 60% LTV ELOCs: They only do 1st position as well so can't have any other mortgage on it. Don't remember their prime rate, but remember thinking its not very competitive (like prime +1.5 or something) particularly for a 60% max.

    BankCherokee: Max 2 properties. Prime + 0% (3.5% floor). Max 80% LTV not to exceed $500,000. 6 year term, interest only from Bank Cherokee Checking. Customer pays closing costs. Want at least 1 operating checking with the bank. Greater Minneapolis & St. Paul market only. Also was "open to a discussion about going up to 100% LTV if they could collateralize something else for an extra 20-25% like an investment portfolio so that a buyer could achieve even higher tax efficiency on their borrowing. Contact: Roger Hamilton. https://bankcherokee.com/about...

    BB&T will loan on a rental portfolio

    Bellwether NH and MA 85% to 100%, draw 10 yrs

    BMO Harris, 3 HELOCs to 70% LTV

    Boeing employee credit union

    California: Cal Coast Credit Union and Fremont Bank

    Citizens Bank -Minnesota, only in-state. Kyle Potswald. If my memory serves me right its a competitive rate (maybe prime +1%?) and I think 75% max LTV and they want to see the HELOC cleared regularly (i.e. don't maintain a balance on it all year long and expect them to renew it). Also it has a pretty quick renewal like 1 or 2 years, but if not renewed it converts into a set term somewhere between 5-10 years (so no worry about default/refinancing if they don't renew you). https://www.citizensmn.bank/di... Scroll and you'll see Kyle's info (since rules prohibit posting on here).

    Citizens first position HELOC

    CMG Financial 70% LTV

    Consolidated CCU, high LTV NOO LOC, OR, WA

    East West Bank, up to 60% LTV with "no docs”

    Figure 80% on a rental, not in LLC

    FirstBank CO and AZ 75% LTV

    First Florida Credit Union https://firstflorida.cumortgag...

    First Commonwealth

    First Midwest, up to 90% Chicago area

    First Tech Federal. Up to 80% if FICO is over 780, no appraisal under $250k value.

    First Republic - California

    Fulton Bank

    GFA Federal Credit Union 10 yr draw, 10 yr repay, MA

    Granite State CU, NH 90-100%

    Great Lakes Credit Union

    HSBC 70%, for premier clients only

    Horizon, Kalamazoo Michigan

    Hurst Lending and Insurance Investment property HELOC in Texas. No seasoning. Bridge, portfolio, foreign national and other specialty loan products.

    Key Bank, FLorida flexible lender, HELOCs on second
    homes and rental properties. 90% LTV on primary.

    Mountain America Credit Union in Utah, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. 85% LTV, promo rate of 1.99%. Can refinance an existing mortgage on investment property to a shorter term “Mini Mortgage.”

    PenFed - max 3 other properties, including primary. 80% LTV, prime + 1%, <4 properties. The original major entrant in this market and probably the largest lender in this market overall.

    Quorum Federal Credit Union 80% equity, owned by LLC is OK. No limit on number of properties held. 5 year interest only payments. New York State. Tiffany Mazzoccoli. 2021

    Regions- yes HELOC but no LOC

    Ridge Lending All in One, first position HELOC

    River Bank & Trust, AL

    SCCU Florida 70% LTV, 6.25% interest only, not LLC

    SECU NC 65% LTV rate 2.75% Oct 2021

    Signature Federal Credit Union 75% LTV

    Silvergate Bank

    Sound CU "non-owner occupied HELOC, capped at $150K and interest rates are prime + 2%, 3% or 4%, based on credit, not to exceed 70% ltv."

    S&T Pennsylvania

    TD Bank 75% line with FICO about 740

    Torrey Pines Bank

    Troy Bank & Trust, AL

    Trustco

    Union Bank, specializes in noo HELOC. KCMO, NE

    Union Bank, MUFG.

    Upstate Bank in Rochester NY, LOC up to 80%

    Vectra Bank - Colo

    Veritex, Texas HELOC

    WellsFargo 60% LTV

    Workers Credit Union, MA 80-100%

    WSFS...up to 70% on rental

    Zions Bank, Utah

  • Tim SwierczekPro Member
    Lender · White Bear Township, MN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Jon Desmond:

    Have had quite a few conversations with bank with HELOC product available in my market (Twin Cities) and thought others would appreciate an update on this list. Some players pulled out during the pandemic, some were never investment property HELOCs, etc.:



    AFCU does 80% LTV on NOO. Utah

    Americafirst 80% LTV on noo 65% LTV Utah

    Arvest Bank AR, OK, AL, MO

    Bank of Southern California

    Bank of West (BNP Paribas) 60% LTV ELOCs: They only do 1st position as well so can't have any other mortgage on it. Don't remember their prime rate, but remember thinking its not very competitive (like prime +1.5 or something) particularly for a 60% max.

    BankCherokee: Max 2 properties. Prime + 0% (3.5% floor). Max 80% LTV not to exceed $500,000. 6 year term, interest only from Bank Cherokee Checking. Customer pays closing costs. Want at least 1 operating checking with the bank. Greater Minneapolis & St. Paul market only. Also was "open to a discussion about going up to 100% LTV if they could collateralize something else for an extra 20-25% like an investment portfolio so that a buyer could achieve even higher tax efficiency on their borrowing. Contact: Roger Hamilton. https://bankcherokee.com/about... 

    BB&T will loan on a rental portfolio

    BBVA, now PNC


    Bellwether NH and MA 85% to 100%, draw 10 yrs

    BMO Harris, 3 HELOCs to 70% LTV

    Boeing employee credit union

    California: Cal Coast Credit Union and Fremont Bank

    Citizens Bank -Minnesota, only in-state. Kyle Potswald. This 1 is legit. If my memory serves me right its a competitive rate (maybe prime +1%?), I think 75% max LTV and they want to see the HELOC cleared regularly (i.e. don't maintain a balance on it all year long and expect them to renew it). Also it has a pretty quick renewal like 1 or 2 years, but if not renewed it converts into a set term somewhere between 5-10 years (so no worry about default/refinancing if they don't renew you). https://www.citizensmn.bank/di... Scroll and you'll see Kyle's info (since rules prohibit posting on here).

    Citizens first position HELOC

    CMG Financial 70% LTV

    Consolidated CCU, high LTV NOO LOC, OR, WA

    East West Bank, up to 60% LTV with "no docs”

    Figure 80% on a rental, not in LLC

    FirstBank CO and AZ 75% LTV

    First Florida Credit Union https://firstflorida.cumortgag...

    First Commonwealth

    First Midwest, up to 75%. First position only. Chicago area

    First Tech Federal. Up to 80% if FICO is over 780, no appraisal under $250k value.

    First Republic - California

    Fulton Bank

    GFA Federal Credit Union 10 yr draw, 10 yr repay, MA

    Granite State CU, NH 90-100%

    Great Lakes Credit Union

    Hanscom FCU, Florida:
    There is no Hanscom FCU in Florida. They're in Massachusetts. They've never been in the investment property HELOC business and I know that one for sure. That said, they're potentially still the most competitive owner occupied HELOC lender in the marketplace although now increasingly borrowers need to argue with them about values they come back with (they blame it on their desktop underwriting software to save costs, but probably is a desire to put borrowers in a higher rate tier). 

    HSBC 70%, for premier clients only

    Horizon, Kalamazoo Michigan

    Huntington 75% LTV 5 yr IO product available. Someone reported 80%…need confirmation. 
    I believe they exited market due to pandemic.

    Hurst Lending and Insurance Investment property HELOC in Texas. No seasoning. Bridge, portfolio, foreign national and other specialty loan products.

    Key Bank, FLorida flexible lender, HELOCs on second
    homes and rental properties. 90% LTV on primary.

    Mountain America Credit Union in Utah, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. 85% LTV, promo rate of 1.99%. Can refinance an existing mortgage on investment property to a shorter term “Mini Mortgage.”

    Merchants Bank MN See Pavel Ushakov: 
    They never had an investment property HELOC. When I provided Pavel's details to them, they said "That is our owner occupied HELOC terms verbatim, but no such product exists for investment properties. Instead they (like many banks) have a BLOC product that is substantially higher interest rate and continually rolling term.

    Navy Federal 80% LTV: 
    Exited the market due to the pandemic and it sounds like it could be a while before they come back.

    PenFed - max 3 other properties, including primary. 80% LTV, prime + 1%, <4 properties. The original major entrant in this market and probably the largest lender in this market overall.

    Quorum Federal Credit Union 80% equity, owned by LLC is OK. No limit on number of properties held. 5 year interest only payments. New York State. Tiffany Mazzoccoli. 2021

    Regions- yes HELOC but no LOC

    Ridge Lending All in One, first position HELOC

    River Bank & Trust, AL

    SCCU Florida 70% LTV, 6.25% interest only, not LLC

    SECU NC 65% LTV rate 2.75% Oct 2021

    Signature Federal Credit Union 75% LTV

    Silvergate Bank

    Sound CU "non-owner occupied HELOC, capped at $150K and interest rates are prime + 2%, 3% or 4%, based on credit, not to exceed 70% ltv."

    S&T Pennsylvania

    TCF Bank: 
    Doesn't exist anymore bought out by Huntington

    TD Bank 75% line with FICO about 740

    TIAA Direct was EverBank:
     Not in this market. Don't think they ever were.

    Torrey Pines Bank

    Troy Bank & Trust, AL

    Trustco

    Union Bank, specializes in noo HELOC. KCMO, NE

    Union Bank, MUFG.

    Upstate Bank in Rochester NY, LOC up to 80%

    US Ba
    nk 80%: Either exited due to the pandemic or never were in the investment property HELOC market.

    Vectra Bank - Colo

    Veritex, Texas HELOC

    WellsFargo 60% LTV

    Workers Credit Union, MA 80-100%

    WSFS...up to 70% on rental

    Zions Bank, Utah


     Thanks for the details and sharing.

  • Real Estate Broker · Marietta, GA · Member since 2011 · 28 posts · 13 votes
    4y

    Great list, finding lenders who offer rental heloc's is like finding a needle in a haystack....let's keep the list going and up to date! 

  • Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 15 votes
    4y

    By the way it looks like Union Bank (which is listed twice above) doesn't allow HELOC on investment property... right in their terms and conditions.

    It's only non occupied 2nd homes they do it for, but if rented out then its a hard no.

  • Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City OK and Glendora, CA · Member since 2016 · 40 posts · 16 votes
    4y

    @Jon Desmond

    Wow this is a really great resource. Thanks for taking the time to share your research.  A few updates below as of 6.10.22

    PennFed and US Bank are not currently offering HELOCs for Non owner occupied. (recent change according to the loan officer)

    Freemont- 60% LTV. 3.99% for the first 6 months but then it's Prime +3.5% so not very competitive

    SRI federal credit union has great terms but they won't accept any rental income for qualification. So your W2 income has to cover all of your investment property liabilities for DTI calculation

    Southland CU- 6.25% was my initial quote for NOO

    Bank of the West- First call said 65% max LTV and the second person I spoke to said 80%. With misc. discounts, they quoted me a margin of 2.74% above prime

    Uncle Credit Union- 80% LTV and good terms posted online. But it was very difficult to get a loan officer on the phone and my impression is that the application process and servicing could be a nightmare.

  • Rental Property Investor · Montgomery, AL · Member since 2019 · 62 posts · 17 votes
    4y

    Agree with @Seth M.

    I just spoke with PenFed, and they no longer offer HELOCs for non owner occupied rentals. However, this doesn't affect any HELOCs you may already have with them for rental properties. I was a bit bummed when I found out as that's the institution that we always use for HELOCs.

  • Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 2 votes
    4y

    This is a great list. I contacted several banks from this list, unfortunately, I do not have any luck yet since either they do not offer HELOC for the rental property anymore, or they do not do HELOC in Texas (my rental properties are in TX).

    I really appreciate any suggestion.

  • New to Real Estate · South Lyon, MI · Member since 2020 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    4y

    @Jon Desmond thank you for the list. I am living in condo in Michigan. I am also looking into Heloc options to use in investment property but PNC bank said they do not provide HELOC for investment property.

    I talked to lower.com, they connect me to local michigan bank, he said they do not provide HELOC since I am living in condo. Suggested to use cash-out refinance.

    I applied through BoA but could not talk to them yet. 7 business day waiting period for me. I will definitely talk to Horizon bank tomorrow. Thank you everyone!

  • Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2018 · 86 posts · 38 votes
    3y

    This is a great thread! I'm still finding anybody who does NOO HELOCs in NC. Anyone have any recommendations? Thanks!

  • Member since 2019 · 30 posts · 10 votes
    3y

    Some of this list is national lenders and a lot of this list is super regional (i.e. the bank has a footprint that stretches over 5 states).

    There are options in that list (assuming they're not pulling their offerings the last few weeks) that are available in North Carolina.

  • Real Estate Agent · Washington DC · Member since 2016 · 847 posts · 656 votes
    3y

    Arlington Credit Union offers 60% on non owner occ residences In D.C. MD and VA

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