Is CRE cash out refi for income producing property still available?

Is CRE cash out refi for income producing property still available?

Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 17 votes

We bought an industrial warehouse for ~$250k and is in the process of renovating it. The goal is to finish the renovation by November and then rent the warehouse to tenants. Our estimated ARV will be ~$850k. Currently the entire project is being funded by our own cash and we are looking for financing options to pull out our capital once our asset is stabilized.

I had one conversation with a CRE lender and she indicated that CRE cash-out refinance is not really available these days given market condition. Is this true?

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Lender · Lake Havasu City, AZ · Member since 2024 · 700 posts · 284 votes
2y

Hi Ivan, 

Happy to connect! Depending on the area I might be able to help.

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  • Ned CareyPro Member
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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    2y

    @Ivan Ng  It might be true for that lender or his or her contacts but I doubt it is true in general. Lenders want to lend, you just have to find the right lender for project.

  • Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 17 votes
    2y

    Thanks, Ned. That is my assumption too so wanted to pick others brain on this forum. 

    Btw, I like Crab Properties and your logo. My business is Egg Yolk Capital which also grabbed (wanted and unwanted) attention 

  • 12 Penns Trail Suite 138 Newtown, PA 18940 · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 319 votes
    2y

    for construction is tough to find but for permanent financing 30 year fixed , yes available 

  • 12 Penns Trail Suite 138 Newtown, PA 18940 · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 319 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Ivan Ng:
    Quote from @Jacob Sherman:

    for construction is tough to find but for permanent financing 30 year fixed , yes available 


     Yes, Jacob. Permanent financing fixed is what we are looking for. Goal is to recycle the capital and do this again 


     awesome ! Lets connect and discuss the scenario in full 

  • Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 17 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Jacob Sherman:
    Quote from @Ivan Ng:
    Quote from @Jacob Sherman:

    for construction is tough to find but for permanent financing 30 year fixed , yes available 


     Yes, Jacob. Permanent financing fixed is what we are looking for. Goal is to recycle the capital and do this again 


     awesome ! Lets connect and discuss the scenario in full 


     Will give you a call in the next couple of days 

  • Lender · Lake Havasu City, AZ · Member since 2024 · 700 posts · 284 votes
    2y

    Hi Ivan, 

    Happy to connect! Depending on the area I might be able to help.

  • Ko KashiwagiPro Member
    Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2022 · 967 posts · 445 votes
    2y

    Definitely still cash out options out there! Lenders have been more conservative than when rates were lower but worth exploring for sure. Depending on the cash flow and location, you could look into both light doc and full doc commercial financing.

  • Rental Property Investor · Minneapolis · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 5 votes
    2y

    In our area there are definitely lenders who would be willing to do a cash out on the property. There is a good chance they would limit the loan amount based on either appraisal, or purchase price + improvements (ie project cost), whichever is lower. If you want to lend based on the new NOI, you might need to let it season for a year. That said, if you have a really strong tenant with a long term lease, you might find a lender willing to lend based on that.

  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    It will depend on when the property was purchased. Many will want to see at least 12 months seasoning to use the full higher ARV value.

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  • Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 17 votes
    2y

    appreciate everyone's feedback. very helpful and sounded like there will be options to refinance 

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