Hey @John Webster . Sorry you had a difficult time with Jay there. Full disclosure, I'm biased as I work with Jay (not for, with). Of course I've also worked with a lot of other Guru's out there as well including Ron LeGrand and Lou Brown.
Regardless, take it for what you will and Jay and his team are on the up and up. I can tell you during the time of your post in Mid-June, the next bootcamp was contracted to be at the Double Tree Hotel in Atlantic Beach on October 9, 10, and 11. He had this contract signed since January. Well, we found out that the Double still won't be open at that time, so Jay and his team were scrambling to find a new location. So if you registered during that time, they couldn't send you the time and location because they didn't have it due to the Double Tree not being ready and nothing was readily available to book. Well that is now resolved and if you're still interested, they have a time and location or message me and I can send it to you.
Don't know why they double charged you. That was a mistake and if you want someone to call you, I can reach out and have them call you. Not sure when you called and typically during normal business hours, Brenda or Antigone who work in Jay's office will pick up the phone - maybe you called after hours? So your situation seems a bit strange and I promise you, not typical. I'll let the office know of your post and see if they can look into it.
Outside of that, what you see is what you get with Jay. Known him for about 10 years and worked with him for about 4 or 5. He's on the up and up. He teaches what he preaches. You can ask his current students that. Come to the live event. He encourages his students to re-attend. You can talk to whoever then and see for yourself.
Will he sell something there? Yes. He doesn't beat around the bush. Coaching and mentoring are offered on the first day so you can look at it, review it and decide over the course of the event. It's not shoved down your throat and only offered on the last day to pressure you into buying. He lays it out and if you like it, join, if not, don't. He gives you a TON of content at his bootcamp including introducing you to his personal team (real estate agent, acquisitionist, project manager, contractor, attorney, etc) and his private lenders. You will definitely learn a thing or two.
I hope that helps. As I said though, full disclosure, I do work with Jay on a handful of projects so I am biased. Although I do so because I like the guy and he's the real deal. Wouldn't work with him if I didn't think so. Hopefully you can get past this incident and give him a chance cause I think you'll get some good value out of it.
Good luck with everything!
