Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2016 · 100 posts · 22 votes
Hi I am an investor from Miami. I wanted to know if buying houses in cash and then getting a mortgage on them is a good idea. For example if I buy a house for 100k in cash and the market price is 120k will I get a mortgage on the 120k or on the purchase price of the 100k? Will the interest rates be the same whether I get the mortgage before or after?
Commercial Mortgage Underwriter / Broker · New York City, NY · Member since 2016 · 193 posts · 75 votes
9y
On a typical bank deal they will base their loan on the lower of your cost basis or appraisal. Interest rates are constantly changing. So you'll get the market interest at the time you rate lock or close the loan. So the rate could go up or down depending on the current market.
Rental Property Investor · Malvern, PA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 936 votes
9y
You can get a mortgage based on the appraised value of the property. Lenders don't use purchase prices nor perceived market prices. Appraisals are based on comps to recently sold similar properties.
You can sometimes get a lower price with a cash offer and short settlement time. You will end up paying more in closing costs this way because some costs will be doubled, such as recording fees and title insurance.
Many lenders require 6-12 months seasoning and charge a slightly higher interest rate for cash out refi mortgage versus purchase mortgages. The higher rate doesn't make sense to me. Several bankers explained to me that taking cash out of the property is considered higher risk than never putting it in when it is bought, but that never made sense to me.
Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2016 · 100 posts · 22 votes
9y
Hi James Mc Ree thanks for the info. Few questions:
1. Why do the lenders sometimes require a 6-12 month seasoning? What's the reasoning behind this if the property is worth its value?
2. Why will some closing costs be doubled? I am not buying the house again, just mortgaging it...
Thanks!
I don't know why one has to wait 6-12 months either. That also didn't make sense to me.
You typically buy title insurance when you purchase the property, though you don't have to. Your lender will require it when you do your cash out refi. That is 2 title insurances, as an example.
Generally it comes down to risk and also the fact that many lenders sell your loan to investors. These investors are usually much more curious and skeptical of new loans without a track record. They are less likely to pay premium for this. A seasoned loan is seen as safer as the borrower has been making payments for be it 6 or 12 months. This shows to an investor that most likely this borrower will keep making payments and pay back in full.
As far as costs for closing on a cash-out refinance, I think generally you'll see about 1.5%-2% from non-traditional lenders, meaning non-bank lenders.