Income approach verses Sale cost approach appraisals

Income approach verses Sale cost approach appraisals

Realtor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 137 posts · 103 votes

Hey BP community!!! I am looking to refi a 4-plex that we purchased as our second investment last fall in Northwest Indiana. Feb will close the 6 months seasoning period. When we purchased to property the appraiser took the income cost approach and valued the property at $71k. We actually purchased it for $49k and put down 25% ($12500).

We have since moved to Chicago where we are currently renting but would like to purchase another house hack. Since cost of living is much higher here than in Indiana we will need a large down payment so my strategy was going to be to refi the 4-plex and pull our dp out plus some.

I have had trouble finding another lender even local banks that will consider the income cost appraisal approach. I do not understand why exactly. Does anyone have a better understanding on this than I? Currently I feel a little stuck in what I originally considered my strategy to to purchase my next property because of the push back we are getting from lenders pertaining to their appraisal approach. 

Thanks for any and all the help!!!

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Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Michelle Bright:

Hey BP community!!! I am looking to refi a 4-plex that we purchased as our second investment last fall in Northwest Indiana. Feb will close the 6 months seasoning period. When we purchased to property the appraiser took the income cost approach and valued the property at $71k. We actually purchased it for $49k and put down 25% ($12500).

We have since moved to Chicago where we are currently renting but would like to purchase another house hack. Since cost of living is much higher here than in Indiana we will need a large down payment so my strategy was going to be to refi the 4-plex and pull our dp out plus some.

I have had trouble finding another lender even local banks that will consider the income cost appraisal approach. I do not understand why exactly. Does anyone have a better understanding on this than I? Currently I feel a little stuck in what I originally considered my strategy to to purchase my next property because of the push back we are getting from lenders pertaining to their appraisal approach. 

Thanks for any and all the help!!!

 was your first loan a 30 year fixed conventional loan?  I have never heard of a traditional loan that uses only the income approach. Appraisals will have the sales comparison, income, and cost to rebuild on it but the sales comparison is what they value residential property on. 

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  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Michelle Bright:

    Hey BP community!!! I am looking to refi a 4-plex that we purchased as our second investment last fall in Northwest Indiana. Feb will close the 6 months seasoning period. When we purchased to property the appraiser took the income cost approach and valued the property at $71k. We actually purchased it for $49k and put down 25% ($12500).

    We have since moved to Chicago where we are currently renting but would like to purchase another house hack. Since cost of living is much higher here than in Indiana we will need a large down payment so my strategy was going to be to refi the 4-plex and pull our dp out plus some.

    I have had trouble finding another lender even local banks that will consider the income cost appraisal approach. I do not understand why exactly. Does anyone have a better understanding on this than I? Currently I feel a little stuck in what I originally considered my strategy to to purchase my next property because of the push back we are getting from lenders pertaining to their appraisal approach. 

    Thanks for any and all the help!!!

     was your first loan a 30 year fixed conventional loan?  I have never heard of a traditional loan that uses only the income approach. Appraisals will have the sales comparison, income, and cost to rebuild on it but the sales comparison is what they value residential property on. 

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    8y
    Agreed, up to 4 units is always appraised on a comp basis.
  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y

    They do have asset based lending for residential properties, but rates are 7-9%

  • Denver, CO · Member since 2012 · 27 posts · 12 votes
    8y

    A small income 1025 appraisal report should have 2-3 approaches to value. Income and cost are 2 separate valuation models (with sales comparison being the 3rd and typically primary). Final indicated value is located on page 3 at the bottom of the page under reconciliation. Does the income approach vary significantly from the sales approach? Perhaps the lender is giving primary weight to the sales comparison approach?

  • Realtor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 137 posts · 103 votes
    8y

    Thank y'all for the replies! 

    Yes, it is a 30 yr fixed conventional at 5.125% 

    Broke out the appraisal from last year...

    I misspoke. They did in fact use the sales comparison approach but also calculated the income approach. The sale approach supports the $71k value we would like to refi it at. Thank you both for making me pull my paper work back to to review!!!

    I looked back on pg 3 at the reconciliation section to read the appraisals description on why there is a $16k difference from the sales vs income. The income approach actually values it at $85k.

    Another lesson learned here is to keep everything organized. I was able to go right to my filing system to pull out the appraisal. Thanks again everyone!  

  • Property Manager · Griffith, IN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 913 votes
    8y

    I'm working with First Merchants on a 4 unit in NWI and they have been pretty easy to work with. They'll loan both to an LLC and individual which is a plus.

  • Realtor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 137 posts · 103 votes
    8y
    Thanks Adrien S. ! I haven’t worked with First Merchants as a client or Realtor. I will reach out to someone there next time I’m visiting my properties. I like developing relationships with different banks. The smaller banks all offer so many different options...even sometimes no options.
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