Buy a fire damaged house with cash or finance?

Buy a fire damaged house with cash or finance?

Real Estate Broker · Lexington, KY · Member since 2017 · 131 posts · 129 votes

I am working through a deal right now that involves two duplexes. This is my first deal, and I have never done a loan before so I would like some advice on what options I have and which route I should take. I have about $35,000 of savings and another $150,000 I can borrow from family for 6-12mo.

One duplex is fully occupied and appears to be renting well below market rent (still waiting on lease for confirmation). I plan on financing this duplex as a 30-year fixed investment loan with 20% down interest rate should be around 5-5.25%. 

With the second duplex, there is significant amount of fire damage. I am planning on living in this duplex which means I could either do a 203k FHA loan, or a Homestyle renovation loan. However, I also have the option of paying for this duplex in cash, rehabbing, and then doing a cash-out refinance.

With all of this being my first deal, I am having a difficult time finding the right people to talk to about this. I like the idea of purchasing the fire damaged house with cash, but I'm not sure if it would be the best option for my situation. I'm having trouble gauging how motivated the seller is, and I'm not sure what circumstances they are in. It is possible they would find the cash offer very appealing which I would of course offer at a lower price than the Homestyle or 203K option. 

Just wondering what your all's thoughts are on the subject, and if there are any other routes I could go with this. I have an excellent credit score and a strong source of income. being that I have not made any loans, I don't have any debt/income ratios to worry about either.


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Roy N.Pro Member
Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
8y

@Timothy VanWingerden

The fire damage does not sound terribly significant ... though likely lost of smoke damage.   If the other unit is unaffected and inhabitable, a lender may underwrite ...

That said, if you can swing it, you ,may be better off buying cash (using that as leverage to drive the price even lower), affect the repairs to the damaged unit, then finance once complete.

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  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    Have you confirmed you can actually finance the damaged duplex?   If it has significant fire damage, there is a high probability a lender will not underwrite it.

  • Real Estate Broker · Lexington, KY · Member since 2017 · 131 posts · 129 votes
    8y

    I guess "significant" could have a range of different interpretations. It appears that the fire burned a 3ft hole through the ceiling of the second floor. It affected the kitchen as well as two rooms above the kitchen; the building is not condemned, so that's a plus.

    I should have a quote from a restoration contractor tomorrow, which would give me a better idea of how much damage has been done. 

    At what point will a lender decide not to underwrite? 

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    @Timothy VanWingerden

    The fire damage does not sound terribly significant ... though likely lost of smoke damage.   If the other unit is unaffected and inhabitable, a lender may underwrite ...

    That said, if you can swing it, you ,may be better off buying cash (using that as leverage to drive the price even lower), affect the repairs to the damaged unit, then finance once complete.

  • Real Estate Broker · Lexington, KY · Member since 2017 · 131 posts · 129 votes
    8y

    Since the kitchens are "back-to-back" so to say, the fire basically happened right in the center of the duplex. It appears that in order for either unit to be inhabitable, the restoration would need to happen. And yes, lots of smoke damage. 

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Timothy VanWingerden:

    Since the kitchens are "back-to-back" so to say, the fire basically happened right in the center of the duplex. It appears that in order for either unit to be inhabitable, the restoration would need to happen. And yes, lots of smoke damage. 

    Then you are looking at a cash purchase ... or private financing (family, friends).

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