Yale Professor Robert Shiller Warns About Speculative Real Estate Bubbles in Some U.S. Cities

Yale Professor Robert Shiller Warns About Speculative Real Estate Bubbles in Some U.S. Cities

Lender · Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2012 · 714 posts · 169 votes

Despite reports from U.S. Media sources that the real estate bust is over, Yale professor Robert Shiller is still skeptical. Best known for his research that produced the S&P/Case-Shiller house price indices for the U.S., Robert Shiller was one of the first to identify the real estate bubble before the crisis. Shiller is reluctant to say the ‘coast is clear’ because he believes there still is not enough “momentum,” which he believes is one of the biggest factors in rising home prices. With several months of price rises, one would believe that there is certainly “momentum,” but Shiller believes there are other factors that could negatively influence this perceived momentum.

One factor, Shiller points out, is the large number of homes in foreclosure or about to be in foreclosure. This lends to an element of fragility in the rise home prices we are starting to see. Another factor, and the second biggest driver of home prices, is the high rate of unemployment in the U.S. If the rate of unemployment continues to rise, this will cause home prices to stagnate.

One important point that Shiller brings up is related to speculative bubbles in real estate. I’ve been writing about this for weeks and no one else has taken me seriously. In the last ten years, people in the U.S. have been, “primed to think speculatively,” as Shiller says. He believes we’ve gotten into a stock market type mindset about real estate. He is quoted as saying, “At other times in history, little attention has been paid to timing the housing market. There was a change in our mindset. Now we start thinking about the housing market as like the stock market.”

Shiller thinks speculative bubbles are rearing their ugly heads right now in several U.S. cities, namely San Francisco and Phoenix, which have risen 5.7% and 14%, respectively, on a seasonally-adjusted basis since bottoming. Many of you will say that prices went down so low that this would be expected. However, many of you have seen the “feeding frenzy” of greedy buyers who are lining up to make overpriced offers, that can make a property not such a good deal.

Shiller would like to see home prices continue to rise through the Spring before he feels the coast is truly clear. Any comments on this hot topic? Please share.

Read the entire WSJ article at this link: http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/2012/08/06/is-this-the-end-of-the-housing-bust-not-so-fast-says-shiller/

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  • Investor and Architect · Ramsey, NJ · Member since 2010 · 305 posts · 84 votes
    14y

    Case Schiller are the best to follow. They track the sale of the same house over time. NAR uses the average of an entire area. Case Schiller is much more reliable and best of all, unbiased. Thank goodness they are out there doing this.

  • Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2012 · 431 posts · 106 votes
    14y

    Couldn't agree more. Before the dot com era of the late 90s massive daily swings in the financial markets weren't overly common and nowadays nobody raises an eyebrow at a 250 point swing in the dow. Certainly seems like real estate has followed and is following that trend as well.

    Fortunately there is enough of it out there where we can all turn a profit.

  • Lender · Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2012 · 714 posts · 169 votes
    14y

    Larry K. yes I agree.

  • Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    14y

    The reason no one believes you, Corey Dutton, is that most want to believe the news that suits them or that sells news.

    On May 29, just a few months ago, Case Shiller released their first quarter 2012 results here. The first sentence in this release reads,

  • Lender · Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2012 · 714 posts · 169 votes
    14y

    Jeff S thanks for your comment. Ironically enough, the WSJ (Wall St Journal) published another article today titled, 'Home Prices Climb as Supply Dwindles.' This article was on the same page as the article where Shiller's commentary appeared today.

    Here's a link to the latter article that screams, 'Yipee the bust is over !'
    http://tinyurl.com/8gadnxb If you want to get a good laugh, read the comments under that article.

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