Current Interest Rate??

Current Interest Rate??

Real Estate Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2014 · 81 posts · 46 votes

Hi BP Family,

So we're looking to buy our first out of state investment property in Indianapolis for 150k! Question is, going through a mortgage, they're claiming it is 3.5% with 2 points ($2,400) or 5%. Just asked another and it's the same. Is this really the best?? 

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Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2020 · 27 posts · 12 votes
6y

@Sunny Suh

I closed on a property in Evansville IN couple weeks ago 3.5% and 25% down for a duplex. I have another under contract in Indianapolis and they just locked me in with the same rate. How much down payment are you putting down?

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  • Katy, TX · Member since 2020 · 86 posts · 45 votes
    6y

    @Michinori Kaneko no in fact they're the preferred lender for my builder who's based in Arkansas. I'll pm you the website.

  • Real Estate Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2014 · 81 posts · 46 votes
    6y

    thanks for the responses everyone! speaking with a few lenders, surprising with a 790 credit score some claimed 3.5% with 2 points or 5% with no points. 

    however, the concensus is that a good rate for someone with high credit is 3.5% with no points at 25%-20%. 

    interestingly enough, we found a lender just searching top lenders on zillow and came across one that initially said they could only match the other lenders at 5% with no points, only to come back and say they "figure out a way" to get 3.5% with no points. concern that they will backload the cost onto the closing costs, but that is still better than the amortized total loan. 

    @Nick Sheveland congrats on the refi! makes sense that it's under 3%, rates will be better for primary, my focus is on the non-primary investment. 

    a lender from first federal reached out to me privately and seems like a good person to work with, but will still do my due diligence for another property. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    @Sunny Suh I’m getting 3.2% - caveat: 35% down. Our deal is slightly bigger and a multi-plex.

  • Rental Property Investor · Amityville, NY · Member since 2018 · 351 posts · 441 votes
    6y

    This is a great thread. Really shows the importance of networking with others in the same space. And shopping around a rate is super important.

  • Ann Arbor, MI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 997 votes
    6y

    @Sunny Suh seems like not very many people understand how interest rates vary significantly from person to person.  YOUR particular interest rate will be based on a number of factors, including but not limited to:

    • type of property
    • state in which property is located 
    • your credit score
    • your debt to income ratio
    • your down payment
    • the loan amount
    • plus many other factors

    So just because someone else on bigger pockets got 3.25% does not mean that's what you'll get.  Instead, simply recognize and appreciate that interest rates (in general) are at their lowest levels, and no matter where you go (credit union vs. bank) you'll have a relatively low interest rate.  

    but there is one certainty...if you use a commercial lender, like RCN Capital, you be forced to pay 2% - 3% more than if you use a residential lender.  Plus, the closing costs are double, there's a pre-payment penalty, and the servicing companies that most commercial lender use are TERRIBLE.  

    Avoid commercial lenders at all costs.  

  • Member since 2020 · 4 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    @Sunny Suh Investment property rates are higher and many credit unions don't do investments property lending. This rate is in line with the market.

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    Residential Real Estate Broker · Evansville, IN · Member since 2016 · 34 posts · 16 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Sunny Suh:

    a lender from first federal reached out to me privately and seems like a good person to work with, but will still do my due diligence for another property. 

    We have done some business with them and have had some clients that have in the past and they are always typically pretty solid with low fees from my experience. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2018 · 128 posts · 84 votes
    6y

    @Sunny Suh even on larger apartment complexes I'm still getting quotes for 3.5% for agency debt. Definitely good rates out there right now.

  • Rental Property Investor · Amityville, NY · Member since 2018 · 351 posts · 441 votes
    6y
    What do you mean "agency debt"


    Originally posted by @Nick Sheveland:

    @Sunny Suh even on larger apartment complexes I'm still getting quotes for 3.5% for agency debt. Definitely good rates out there right now.

  • Rental Property Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2018 · 128 posts · 84 votes
    6y

    @Erik B. Agency Debt is typically loans for commercial use like apartment complexes. It's a fancy way of saying Fannie or Freddie for $3mm +

  • Salem, MA · Member since 2014 · 59 posts · 8 votes
    6y

    Check the below forum on people sharing rates. Very helpful!


    https://www.bogleheads.org/for...

  • Accountant · los angeles · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 9 votes
    5y

    Duplex, $310k existing loan, $200k cash out, 2.940% for $16k in points, and about $3k in closing cost.

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