How to combine a wrap around mortgage and lease-option

How to combine a wrap around mortgage and lease-option

Member since 2020 · 34 posts · 11 votes

I have an interesting scenario for you creative finance experts:

I've found a seller who is in pre-forclosure and owes $69,000 on his mortgage. He's asking for $95,000 so he can walk away from his debt and pocket $26,000. Since speaking with me though, he's found a program that helps veterans in these situations keep their houses. He did not share the specifics of this program. So I don't know what I'm competing with.

I want to help him stay in his house, and hopefully help him acquire the property back from me in a few years when he's back on his feet. His monthly payment is quite low, so I'm having a hard time figuring out how I can make this deal beneficial for both of us, while keeping him in the house, and then give him the option to buy back the property from me in a few years.

To me this would be some sort of combination of a wrap mortgage and lease-option. I don't know enough about either strategy to know how to combine the two! I'm also trying to explore what is possible with this creative finance thing! Would love any suggestions or ideas on how I might be able to tackle this.

Goals for me would be: cash flow in the short-term, then a little profit on the sale in a few years.

Goals for him: keep him in the house, don't let him go into foreclosure, let his family stay in the house, purchase property back at a discount in a few years.

Would love a win-win situation here. But understand if that just isn't possible.

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Investor · Tucson, AZ · Member since 2017 · 208 posts · 235 votes
3y

I agree with @Tom Gimer- The best way to help would be to make a fair offer on the property and discuss all options.  If you buy the property, you should be very clear that it's not for him to "save" or "buy back" the house later.  I have purchased many pre-foreclosure homes and the one rule is they MUST understand they cannot keep the house or have any hope of buying it back later.  You could have some very nasty repercussions if you give the impression that you could save the property read some of those articles Tom mentions above - scary stuff.  You can best help by helping this person move on to the next chapter of their life with some cash and hopefully not having a foreclosure on their record.  

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  • Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2021 · 244 posts · 163 votes
    3y

    @Elliot Tan You can assume his mortgage and rent it back to him at market rent for the privilege of assuming all the responsibility with the property, especially if he wants to buy it in a couple years

    He:

    - gets to stay in the property without having to face foreclosure with his family

    - gets the responsibility of the property off his hands

    - gets the option to buy property within a couple years

    You:

    - get a discount (assuming his amount to catch-up is lower than his equity in the property) 

    - get ownership of the asset and all the benefits that come with it at least till he wants to buy it

    - get equity in the property while helping him stay in his house which you can sell to him at a stepped-up basis

    For you to help him out, articulate the benefits to him and go from there

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    3y

    @Elliot Tan You will want to research "foreclosure rescue" "foreclosure rescue scam" and "foreclosure consultant" before wading into these waters. Not sure where the property is but this stuff is heavily regulated in some areas because it often results in the house not being saved at all. Also "equity skimming".

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  • Investor · Tucson, AZ · Member since 2017 · 208 posts · 235 votes
    3y

    I agree with @Tom Gimer- The best way to help would be to make a fair offer on the property and discuss all options.  If you buy the property, you should be very clear that it's not for him to "save" or "buy back" the house later.  I have purchased many pre-foreclosure homes and the one rule is they MUST understand they cannot keep the house or have any hope of buying it back later.  You could have some very nasty repercussions if you give the impression that you could save the property read some of those articles Tom mentions above - scary stuff.  You can best help by helping this person move on to the next chapter of their life with some cash and hopefully not having a foreclosure on their record.  

  • Member since 2020 · 34 posts · 11 votes
    3y

    @Tom Gimer

    Oh man, had no idea these things existed.  Will definitely look into how much trouble I can get into!

    To know exactly the rules in my state, should I look for a RE lawyer? Or is there someone else I should reach out to?

  • Member since 2020 · 34 posts · 11 votes
    3y

    @Andrew Kiel

    Thanks for making that clear.  I'll be sure to have him understand that if he does want to in fact work with me.  Appreciate it.

  • Member since 2020 · 34 posts · 11 votes
    3y

    @Sanat Bhandari

    Thanks laying out the benefits for both of us.  I've presented some of these things, but it hasn't been enough to convince him just yet!  

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