Home Equity Loan Fixed Rate, not HELOC for owner-occupied duplex

Home Equity Loan Fixed Rate, not HELOC for owner-occupied duplex

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Anyone doing this loan?  And how will your underwriter apply the income on the 3/2 rent that has been on tax returns for over 2 years? Will they count that rent and rent on any other properties I have straight off my tax returns for prior 2 years at 100% of what I show on tax return?  Or apply a 25% vacancy (different lenders do this differently. I need to know this for certain, don't just tell me something unless you know it from the underwriter. )  Equity in prop is 600-700k, but only need 100k plus to replenish the 100k I spent on some repairs this year. I was going to sell but didn't, now wld like to get that much back out. 

Also how does the underwriter apply that income? Does he/she apply it towards the 1st mortgage and then DTI the proposed 2nd against my income. OR add that rent to the total income, and DTI the 1st and 2nd together? and WHAT DTI do you need? with maybe a 740-789 FICO (I don't know cuz I am paying off some CC's to bring the FICO back up, but one of the credit agencies didn't bring it back up as much as the other I usually have an 800 FICO w no debt. (the reason I need to know all this is 2021 taxes were not that high as some tenants still not paying rent from Covid, so I am trying to see so pls don't say you can do this loan unless you talk to your underwiter first and find out the above questions.)

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  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jim Kinzeler:

    Anyone doing this loan?  And how will your underwriter apply the income on the 3/2 rent that has been on tax returns for over 2 years? Will they count that rent and rent on any other properties I have straight off my tax returns for prior 2 years at 100% of what I show on tax return?  Or apply a 25% vacancy (different lenders do this differently. I need to know this for certain, don't just tell me something unless you know it from the underwriter. )  Equity in prop is 600-700k, but only need 100k plus to replenish the 100k I spent on some repairs this year. I was going to sell but didn't, now wld like to get that much back out. 

    Also how does the underwriter apply that income? Does he/she apply it towards the 1st mortgage and then DTI the proposed 2nd against my income. OR add that rent to the total income, and DTI the 1st and 2nd together? and WHAT DTI do you need? with maybe a 740-789 FICO (I don't know cuz I am paying off some CC's to bring the FICO back up, but one of the credit agencies didn't bring it back up as much as the other I usually have an 800 FICO w no debt. (the reason I need to know all this is 2021 taxes were not that high as some tenants still not paying rent from Covid, so I am trying to see so pls don't say you can do this loan unless you talk to your underwiter first and find out the above questions.)


     Hey Jim, 

    What is your current loan? Conventional? FHA?

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  • Lender · Member since 2023 · 52 posts · 18 votes
    3y

    I underwrite these types of loans based off of the equity in the property with the combined first and second position loans. Income from 2021 isn’t important, instead I determine if the property can be sold to cover the capital invested in the event of a default.  From your description, it seems like you have plenty of equity in this property to get a fixed second position loan that you are looking for.  Once the collateral is established, I look to make sure the borrower has the capacity to service the debt. 

    Also, keep in mind that the second position debt is riskier for the lender and will carry a correspondingly higher interest rate than the first position.  

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