Cash out refinance pros/cons

Cash out refinance pros/cons

Rental Property Investor · Racine, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 2 votes

We bought, renovated, and are renting... now we want to refinance and repeat. What are the pros vs cons of cash out refinancing?

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Ypsilanti, MI · Member since 2018 · 189 posts · 128 votes
7y

Pros: you get cash back to put towards another investment. 

Cons: your PITI increases making monthly cash flow worse.

If you bought the property with refinance in mind, then do it and turn one into 2. If it’ll make you negative cash flow, then maybe take out less or look at a different exit strategy. Have you run the numbers yet?

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  • Ypsilanti, MI · Member since 2018 · 189 posts · 128 votes
    7y

    Pros: you get cash back to put towards another investment. 

    Cons: your PITI increases making monthly cash flow worse.

    If you bought the property with refinance in mind, then do it and turn one into 2. If it’ll make you negative cash flow, then maybe take out less or look at a different exit strategy. Have you run the numbers yet?

  • Rental Property Investor · Racine, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Matt Hurley

    We are waiting for the appraisal to come back.

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    @Gabriel Williams pro is that you get cash in your hand to do it again.

    Con is that you have to pay it back, with interest....

  • Rental Property Investor · Racine, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Jason DiClemente

    In theory my renters will actually be the ones paying it off and putting money in my pockets if the numbers work out right!

    I mean that’s how it should work right? :)

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    @Gabriel Williams yes, but it comes out of your cashflow.

  • Investor · Menifee, CA · Member since 2015 · 534 posts · 216 votes
    7y

    @Gabriel Williams there are a lot of factors that can make your pros and cons better or worse. How much money you have in reserves, how much did you put into the rehab, what kind of loan and terms you used to purchase the property in the first place, was it private/hard money. How your market is where you live and what type of property is it, SFR or Multi unit. Here in California SFR's don't cash flow well unless a huge discount. If you put a bunch of money on the rehab and don't refinance, how long is it gonna take to get that money back in rent as well as closing costs you paid for. And if you have a lot of money in reserves to keep investing then maybe you might not want to cash out refinance. What's the market doing as well, do you feel it's growth for appreciation is over with and it's peaked? Maybe not cash out then as well and push the limits. Lots to think about sometimes with these things.

  • Rental Property Investor · Racine, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Thanks, so much good info that I hadn’t thought of!

  • Rental Property Investor · Racine, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Good point Jason. I guess my thought was only take an amount that allows me to still cash flow something. My original thinking was even if I just break even I still have the asset which is a sfh, with a view of Lake Michigan and it’s costing me nothing.

  • Real Estate Agent · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2018 · 90 posts · 55 votes
    7y
    @Gabriel Williams Pros are that you got some dough to buy some moe property! Con is you have a larger loan amount to take on that will hopefully be covered by your rental income.
  • Rental Property Investor · Racine, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Thanks Gus! I'm waiting on an appraisal to see if it's even a possibility. We have a lot of equity in the home already so a HELOC is also something we may consider.

  • Member since 2019 · 51 posts · 16 votes
    7y

    The cons are how long will it be for you to find another property? You are paying money out every day you do. 

    Do you have 2 years of reserves to sit out a recession? This is a goal you should strive for to keep yourself solid in bad times BEFORE you take out more leverage. Most people ignore this and gamble away.

    The pros are this is a time when money is liquid and values are high - better to get it now. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Spokane, WA · Member since 2013 · 123 posts · 66 votes
    7y

    @Gabriel Williams most lenders won't allow you to refi to the point where the property doesn't cash flow. If you're in a strong rental market and don't foresee a decrease in rents then pull that cash out and do it again! If it's a slightly riskier rental market I'd think twice about pulling out the max $$$ on the refi or just be prepared to have a property decrease it's NOI in the future.

  • Real Estate Broker · Detroit, MI · Member since 2014 · 384 posts · 149 votes
    7y

    I don't know that there are any cons if you need the money to continue to invest. The lender will limit LTV so you'll be safe there.

  • Lender · Miami, FL · Member since 2019 · 51 posts · 19 votes
    7y

    Do not order your own Appraisal!

    If you are Refinancing the Lender will make you order an Appraisal using their selected Appraisal Company. 

    Do not waste money on an Appraisal that the Lender will not accept.

  • Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Gabriel Williams

    How does the new rate compare to the original rate? That could be a pro or a con.

  • Rental Property Investor · Racine, WI · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Max T.

    The refi rate is slightly higher. Right now we are still just considering all of our options.

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