First Joint Venture, No Surprises Please!

First Joint Venture, No Surprises Please!

Jon S.Pro Member
Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 92 votes

Could this blow up in my face? I bought an SFR that I haven't renovated yet. I own it free and clear. I have $100k in it. It needs a full renovation of $$40-60k depending on how extensive the rehab is. My capital is tied up in another project, so the renovation would have to wait until my other refinance completes.

Meanwhile, another investor who knows my situation has proposed that they renovate it at their expense as a joint venture partner. They have overseen a couple of my renovations before and now they want to be on the investor side with me. They were on the investor side long before I was so they are not new to REI and renovations and I n fact they have been a mentor to me in REI. They would be fully responsible for the renovation labor and expense.

I would like this JV to happen but I have no idea how to structure an agreement contract. How can I structure this deal so that all interests are protected? How do we determine a formula for profits.

What about alternate scenarios? If the flip doesn’t sell how would that scenario work out financially for all parties? If it doesn’t sell and becomes a rental, then what?

What if they go over the agreed renovation budget?

They are doing some of the work, how is their labor calculated?

What other problems or red flags should I be aware of?

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  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jon S.:

    Could this blow up in my face? I bought an SFR that I haven't renovated yet. I own it free and clear. I have $100k in it. It needs a full renovation of $$40-60k depending on how extensive the rehab is. My capital is tied up in another project, so the renovation would have to wait until my other refinance completes.

    Meanwhile, another investor who knows my situation has proposed that they renovate it at their expense as a joint venture partner. They have overseen a couple of my renovations before and now they want to be on the investor side with me. They were on the investor side long before I was so they are not new to REI and renovations and I n fact they have been a mentor to me in REI. They would be fully responsible for the renovation labor and expense.

    I would like this JV to happen but I have no idea how to structure an agreement contract. How can I structure this deal so that all interests are protected? How do we determine a formula for profits.

    What about alternate scenarios? If the flip doesn’t sell how would that scenario work out financially for all parties? If it doesn’t sell and becomes a rental, then what?

    What if they go over the agreed renovation budget?

    They are doing some of the work, how is their labor calculated?

    What other problems or red flags should I be aware of?

    Hundreds of investors do this, so this is not something new that you will be experimenting. Depending on your negotiations, you contribute house and they contribute rehab cost to the partnership. The profit/Loss can be dependent on how much capital each party is bringing in. 

    An attorney will have to draft a comprehensive partnership agreement. All the legal pitfalls will be addressed by an attorney. 

    Recommend using an LLC to partner with another investor. Your LLC will be in partnership with their LLC or with them directly (their problems)

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  • Jon S.Pro Member
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    Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 92 votes
    7y

    @Ashish Acharya

    Thank you Ashish. Glad to hear this is not unusual. I will definitely have an attorney draw up the agreement, open a new LLC for the JV, and make it between my LLC and their's. All good advice, thank you.

  • Scott SmithPro Member
    Attorney · Austin, TX · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 932 votes
    7y

    I would agree with Ashish, you definitely want to have an experienced attorney to write this up for you. I will also link a couple useful articles on this topic. Joint VenturesPartnership Questions.

  • Jon S.Pro Member
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    Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 92 votes
    7y

    @Scott Smith

    Thank you

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