Patrick DruryBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH & Cleveland OH · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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@Michelle Moe
I can send some recommendations over
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Michelle Moe
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Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 14 votes
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Thank you, Patrick. I appreciate that!
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Ryan Rock
Sacramento · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 24 votes
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Quote from @Michelle Moe:

Does anyone have any recommendations for a property manager in Cleveland that is out of state investor friendly?

I don't want to derail your thread but I'm in the exact same situation. Pm if you'd like to compare notes
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Michelle Moe
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Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 14 votes
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Hi Ryan,
I contacted 5 PMs last night, and we’ll see if they get back to me. I am in contact with one other, but I’d like to interview several before I make a decision. I’ll keep you posted!
Let me know what you find out!

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Bob S.
Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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I know them all as I have been doing business there for 10 years, more than happy to recommend,
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Michelle Moe
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Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 14 votes
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Thank you, Bob! Can you send me a few of your favorites?
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Bruce SteinetzPro Member
Member since 2022 · 27 posts · 9 votes
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Hi Michelle

I’m also looking for a good quality PM.
Were you able to make any progress on your search?
thanks
Bruce
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Rhyan Talley
Member since 2023 · 7 posts · 1 vote
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Good Evening, are you still actively looking for a property manager!?
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Bruce SteinetzPro Member
Member since 2022 · 27 posts · 9 votes
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Quote from @Rhyan Talley:

Good Evening, are you still actively looking for a property manager!?

yes I am still looking for a quality property manager Any recommendations?

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Rhyan Talley
Member since 2023 · 7 posts · 1 vote
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Yes I can assist you I’m a PM in Cleveland that’s actually lives in the city with boots on the ground!

Do you have a email so we can schedule a time to talk!?
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Michelle Moe
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Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 14 votes
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Quote from @Rhyan Talley:

Yes I can assist you I’m a PM in Cleveland that’s actually lives in the city with boots on the ground!

Do you have a email so we can schedule a time to talk!?

Hi Rhyan, great! What company are you with?
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Rhyan Talley
Member since 2023 · 7 posts · 1 vote
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My own business T.M.I. Is a local PM here in Cleveland Ohio, do you have a email where we can talk further?
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Uri Gofman
Member since 2018 · 150 posts · 200 votes
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speak with Andrew Weiner at Realty Now Property Management. He manages our Cleveland portfolio.
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David Leggett
Real Estate Broker · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2018 · 227 posts · 133 votes
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Hey Michelle, I've also worked with several of the larger property management companies and can definitely give you some advice on which companies to stay away from, as well as a few that I've had positive experiences with. Best of luck!
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Bruce SteinetzPro Member
Member since 2022 · 27 posts · 9 votes
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Quote from @Uri Gofman:

speak with Andrew Weiner at Realty Now Property Management. He manages our Cleveland portfolio.

Uri: Thanks for the connection. I will reach out to Andrew.
BTW: Mind if I ask where you are based?
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Uri Gofman
Member since 2018 · 150 posts · 200 votes
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Quote from @Bruce Steinetz:

Quote from @Uri Gofman:

speak with Andrew Weiner at Realty Now Property Management. He manages our Cleveland portfolio.

Uri: Thanks for the connection. I will reach out to Andrew.
BTW: Mind if I ask where you are based?

We are based in Cleveland.
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Drew SygitBusiness Member
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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@Michelle Moe
Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!

Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊

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Steven Foster Wilson
Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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Quote from @Michelle Moe:

Does anyone have any recommendations for a property manager in Cleveland that is out of state investor friendly?

Hey Michelle, I have a list of PM's, contractors and lenders that have helped several of my investors when acquiring properties. I personally have 8+ units in Cleveland and my team primarily helped me to make the managing of these properties easier.
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Jaison Shell
Investor · Upper Marlboro, MD · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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Good afternoon Michelle. I'm new to real estate investing. I'm part of a group interested in purchasing property in Cleveland and I was wondering if any of the property management companies worked out for you. I've been tasked with finding one. Feel free to PM me. Thank you in advance!
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Jack KrusinskiBusiness Member
Realtor · Cleveland/Akron OH · Member since 2019 · 141 posts · 91 votes
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Michelle, if you text or email me, I can send a few great recommendations!
[email protected]216-789-6736
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Erik E.
Rental Property Investor · Orlando FL /Cleveland OH/Detroit MI · Member since 2019 · 52 posts · 32 votes
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Quote from @Michelle Moe:

Hi Ryan,
I contacted 5 PMs last night, and we’ll see if they get back to me. I am in contact with one other, but I’d like to interview several before I make a decision. I’ll keep you posted!
Let me know what you find out!

Hello Michelle,
Did any of the 5 PMs you reached out to contact you back? In the process of trying to switch all of my units & I'm out of state as well.

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Jemma Jacques
Member since 2021 · 49 posts · 33 votes
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Quote from @Michelle Moe:

Does anyone have any recommendations for a property manager in Cleveland that is out of state investor friendly?

I would say do NOT go with Realty Trust, I just had an awful experince- if you find anyone good please let me know, I just got so burned, Im thinking of selling my properties because of it :(
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Dave DumoulinPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Marseille, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 7 votes
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@Michelle Moe
Hi Michelle, I own 10 Units in Cleveland, I am out of state, and I am also in the same process of finding and professional and reliable PM. Let’s share our information
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Account Closed
Real Estate Agent · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2022 · 51 posts · 43 votes
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@Michelle Moe I just sent you a message. I believe we would make a great fit for your Cleveland property management needs. Look forward to connecting!
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Bob S.
Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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I know them all ,I am aware of who to stay away from and who to use. I have been doing business out there for about 10 years, 100s and 100s of properties,
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