HELOC Appraisal Question

HELOC Appraisal Question

Contractor 路 Onalaska, WI 路 Member since 2019 路 10 posts 路 12 votes

Hey all,

So I purchased a property in July of 2018 as a permanent residence. I purchased it for $164,900 and it needed a bit of work. I'm a contractor so I was able to do everything myself which saved me a ton of money. Anyways, when I bought the house the appraisal came in at $169,900. Since purchase, I took out a main wall between a kitchen and living room, removed all the dark wall paneling, installed fence, and drywalled/painted everything upstairs. We also refinished the cabinets with new hardware and installed new countertops. I refinished the hardwood floors throughout and the whole project turned out great. I was so ambitious I even finished the basement. So to the point. I was looking into getting a HELOC from my property to use in the real estate world. Well, the appraisal came back at $169,000. How could the appraisal come back $900 lower? The market we are in is on fire right now, but all the comparable sales to my home the appraiser used included outdated homes with no improvements. They all sold for $175,000+ so why would the appraiser say my newly remodeled home is worth less then when I bought it? This is my first attempt at getting a HELOC, and it's disappointing but I also want to know possible reasons or ideas. The bank is even confused if that tells you anything. Thanks for the feedback.

Cody

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Rental Property Investor 路 Yukon, OK 路 Member since 2013 路 44 posts 路 17 votes
7y

Talk to Bank and ask if you can talk to the appraisal person and yes you can challenge the appraisal

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  • Adam HofferPro Member
    Rental Property Investor 路 La Crosse, WI 路 Member since 2016 路 132 posts 路 42 votes
    7y

    Cody,

    It is almost certainly going to depend on the comps the appraiser picked. Do you have your appraisal from when you first purchased the home? It could be helpful to compare the two. I'm happy to go through your appraisal with you if you'd like.

    Adam

  • Winter Garden, FL 路 Member since 2018 路 63 posts 路 145 votes
    7y

    Was it a computer generated appraisal or a human appraisal? 

    A recent computer appraisal I received appraised my property $3k under my purchase price with a "very high" accuracy confidence score. It took none of my renovations into account and pulled comps that really weren't comps. I paid to have a human appraisal and that came back $60k higher with legit comps. 

    While telling the appraiser about the recent property upgrades I like to point out a couple nearby comps and price to help him/her in the right direction. 馃榿

  • Martin NealPro Member
    Rental Property Investor 路 Chicago, IL 路 Member since 2017 路 293 posts 路 383 votes
    7y

    @James Roberts Some appraisers play it safe and give a lower number to cover themselves. If you didn鈥檛 tell the appraiser about all the upgrades then he wouldn鈥檛 take them into account when giving his opinion. Call the appraiser, tell him about the upgrades and challenge him if you have to.

  • Contractor 路 Onalaska, WI 路 Member since 2019 路 10 posts 路 12 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @James R.:

    Was it a computer generated appraisal or a human appraisal? 

    A recent computer appraisal I received appraised my property $3k under my purchase price with a "very high" accuracy confidence score. It took none of my renovations into account and pulled comps that really weren't comps. I paid to have a human appraisal and that came back $60k higher with legit comps. 

    While telling the appraiser about the recent property upgrades I like to point out a couple nearby comps and price to help him/her in the right direction. 馃榿

    It was a human appraiser. I was unable to be home due to work so my neighbor let him in. I wasn't able to tell him about the upgrades, so that may have played a factor. I have the original appraisal from July, so I will compare the two and also find some better comps that better reflect my property.  

  • Contractor 路 Onalaska, WI 路 Member since 2019 路 10 posts 路 12 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Martin Neal:

    @James Roberts Some appraisers play it safe and give a lower number to cover themselves. If you didn鈥檛 tell the appraiser about all the upgrades then he wouldn鈥檛 take them into account when giving his opinion. Call the appraiser, tell him about the upgrades and challenge him if you have to.

    Do I tell my lender I would like to challenge the appraisal, or do I contact the appraiser?

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Yukon, OK 路 Member since 2013 路 44 posts 路 17 votes
    7y

    Talk to Bank and ask if you can talk to the appraisal person and yes you can challenge the appraisal

  • Richardson, TX 路 Member since 2018 路 7 posts 路 2 votes
    7y

    Like @James R. said, you have to point them in the right direction with comps. I think it's just one of those things in life where you have to learn how to help other people do their jobs so that you can do your job. A great appraiser might not need your help finding comps, but the bank probably isn't contracting with the best appraisers.
    I forget where I read it, but it's a good idea to put together a little packet with the upgrades and comps, because it's easier to guide them before they put together their appraisal than it is to get them to correct it.

    I think it might have been in The 36 Hour Real Estate Investing Course.

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Milwaukee, WI 路 Member since 2017 路 13 posts 路 3 votes
    7y

    @Cody Croteau contact the appraiser, you should be able to influence them, especially if you have some good info on comps, upgrades etc. 

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Orlando, FL 路 Member since 2015 路 353 posts 路 269 votes
    7y

    @Cody Croteau for our HELOC they just did a drive by appraisal. So they wouldn't have seen or known about any upgrades we did to the inside. The HELOC application basically had us write in an estimated current home value, and in the end, the appraisal came back to match our estimated value exactly.

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