What's the most drama you've had with an STR?

What's the most drama you've had with an STR?

Investor · The worst town to live in, KS · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes

Monday was a rain day for my tenants. They couldn't work. Guy #1 called me and asked if there was any work he could do. I gave him a chainsaw and told him to clear out all the overgrown trees around a STR. Found out some limbs fell down on another STR that his co-worker was renting, Guy #2 and his wife. Drove him over there and had him cut and clear the limbs. Guy #3 is the superintendent, rents from me and lives next to Guy #1 along with his wife and 2 kids. Guy #3's wife was with guy #2's wife at the house with fallen limbs and Guy #2's wife thought something strange was going on.

Yesterday Guy #1 called and asked me to meet him at McDonalds. I was driving there and he asked to meet me at an intersection near where he works.  Get to the intersection and he's hiding in some bushes.  Said his brother is having surgery today and he's taking a bus to see him.  He wanted to do more chainsaw work.  I put him in the back of my truck and drove him to the house.  Guy #3 called and wanted to know where guy #1 was.  I told him the address, then proceeded to the house with gas for the chainsaw.  Guy #1 called and said Guy #3 is here and hung up.  I see #3 leaving in his car, the chainsaw is on the ground and #1 is nowhere to be found.  House door is open, work gloves were on the table. I hear #1 say "Paul, is that you?"  I said yes.  He asked "Is Guy #3 there?"  I said no.  He opened a bedroom door and was on the phone with the police.  He said he barricaded himself in the bedroom and Guy #3 broke open the door.  Door was broken.  Police showed up and he recounted his ordeal and gave a description.  Other police apprehended Guy #3 and got his statement.  I called the owner of their company to let him know what happened.  Owner said Guy #3 called him that morning and needed a few days off to get things sorted out, he found inappropriate text messages on his wife's phone from guy #1 and suspected the 2 of them were having an affair.  

So I called the police and said I didn't want to press charges.  They said it's too late and he's already posted bail.  Guy #1 needed to take a shower and pack his things and I'd give him a ride to the bus station.  He rides in the back of my truck and Guy #3 is at his apartment.  Guy #1 doesn't want to go in and wants me to take him somewhere to take a shower.  I gave him a garden hose and opened a garage door 6" and told him to take a shower in the garage.  I got his clothes from his apartment and told Guy #3 I'm not pressing charges.  Go back to Guy #1 and he's standing naked in the living room.  I gave him his clothes then took him to the bus station. 

I had a comedy station on my satellite radio.  The comedian had a skit about Mormon's.  He said the bible says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife".

Apparently Guy #1 and the lady used to date each other 7 years ago.  Guy #4 is the foreman and lives next to #1 and #3 and told me #1 is fired.  Guy #4 brought #1 here to work.  Now #4 is cleaning #1's apartment for me.

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Peter R.Pro Member
Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2016 · 152 posts · 86 votes
8y

I posted this elsewhere, please forgive the copy/paste!

TL;DR: Low level card tester for a local stolen card ring decides to take a mini staycation, gets the fraud ring busted. Her dogs pissed everywhere, we’re out about $6k.

This was an experience with VRBOHomeaway. I personally think Airbnb’s fraud detection measures are quite a bit better as they seem to have more insight into payments.

We had a guest, let’s call her Parys because her fake identity first name that she used is an equally big city just as misspelled.

Parys booked a three day weekend into the unit and everything seemed fine, she was in the area trying to find a long term place and wanted to experience the area, not totally unusual.

On the second day she sent a message through the platform asking to extend for a full two weeks, which, ok, nice!

She asked to pay with a different credit card than the one on file with VRBO but whatever, that’s VRBO’s problem to deal with, we told her to call them up and ask to switch it out and she did.

Payment goes through, we get notified, all seems great.

Nope.

Five days into her stay we get automated notifications from VRBO that the payment had been reversed and they took the money out of our account.

Card was stolen.

Called up VRBO and they are less than helpful, point us to their third party somewhat shady payment processor. Processor says, “Yep, card’s stolen, you should escort her out.” No help beyond that, we’re on the hook for everything.

I should mention this was quite a few years ago and Airbnb has since forced VRBO to step up their host support game via Airbnb’s host guarantees and whatnot.

Anyway, we contact our lawyer and he walks us through how to get access to the property and abide by state law regarding transient housing as this was not a tenant but a guest and the laws of the state are quite landlord friendly in that case.

Local property manager gains access, she’s not there. In plain view on the dining room table was a notebook full of credit card numbers.

Manager nope'd the hell out of there and calls the Sheriff.

They show up and ask permission to enter the property, we grant it immediately and they go about collecting everything that is evidence of her crimes.

Manager snaps a photo of one of the notebooks full of card numbers on the way out before the Sheriff arrives. Full of card numbers and crossed out card numbers with notes like “Declined at Panera 10/6, and Declined at WalMart 10/14, etc.”

Turns out she was a card tester for a local stolen card ring and apparently she just decided to use one of the stolen cards for a mini staycation.

She shows up while the Sheriff is collecting evidence, gets arrested. It becomes a black hole of a case but the Sheriff’s Office says they got quite a bit to move up the line on her theft ring.

The DA declined to prosecute her on charges of Defrauding an Innkeeper which, surprisingly, has quite a hefty fine attached. We'd have never seen the money anyway even if we'd won but I'm still salty about that.

In the mean time, her dogs (we’re a pet friendly rental) have totally destroyed the place even beyond the quite nasty conditions she was living in, even after she had been living only a week in the unit so far.

Two urine soaked mattresses, a destroyed couch, hopelessly soiled rugs and towels, broken plates, furniture, etc, etc.

Between the damage and the lost income we’re out about $6k, not enough to file an insurance claim and make it worth the possible rate increase after the deductible.

Unit was out of service for 3 days just to clean and replace items.

VRBO’s response? ¯\(ツ)/¯

Sadly though, we’re still using VRBO, they make up the bulk of longer term older guests who like to stay for weeks at a time. Airbnb is very much the younger, more last minute crowd.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Sevierville, TN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    Well that's a soap opera right there.  Fortunately the most drama I can think of offhand is the 12-year-old who wet the bed and his dad made him come to my door at the adjacent apartment and confess.  (I felt really bad for him, and am not at all on board with shaming your kid like that, so I was matter-of-fact "Okay, no problem" and gave them new sheets/took the old ones and washed them; the end)

  • Peter R.Pro Member
    Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2016 · 152 posts · 86 votes
    8y

    I posted this elsewhere, please forgive the copy/paste!

    TL;DR: Low level card tester for a local stolen card ring decides to take a mini staycation, gets the fraud ring busted. Her dogs pissed everywhere, we’re out about $6k.

    This was an experience with VRBOHomeaway. I personally think Airbnb’s fraud detection measures are quite a bit better as they seem to have more insight into payments.

    We had a guest, let’s call her Parys because her fake identity first name that she used is an equally big city just as misspelled.

    Parys booked a three day weekend into the unit and everything seemed fine, she was in the area trying to find a long term place and wanted to experience the area, not totally unusual.

    On the second day she sent a message through the platform asking to extend for a full two weeks, which, ok, nice!

    She asked to pay with a different credit card than the one on file with VRBO but whatever, that’s VRBO’s problem to deal with, we told her to call them up and ask to switch it out and she did.

    Payment goes through, we get notified, all seems great.

    Nope.

    Five days into her stay we get automated notifications from VRBO that the payment had been reversed and they took the money out of our account.

    Card was stolen.

    Called up VRBO and they are less than helpful, point us to their third party somewhat shady payment processor. Processor says, “Yep, card’s stolen, you should escort her out.” No help beyond that, we’re on the hook for everything.

    I should mention this was quite a few years ago and Airbnb has since forced VRBO to step up their host support game via Airbnb’s host guarantees and whatnot.

    Anyway, we contact our lawyer and he walks us through how to get access to the property and abide by state law regarding transient housing as this was not a tenant but a guest and the laws of the state are quite landlord friendly in that case.

    Local property manager gains access, she’s not there. In plain view on the dining room table was a notebook full of credit card numbers.

    Manager nope'd the hell out of there and calls the Sheriff.

    They show up and ask permission to enter the property, we grant it immediately and they go about collecting everything that is evidence of her crimes.

    Manager snaps a photo of one of the notebooks full of card numbers on the way out before the Sheriff arrives. Full of card numbers and crossed out card numbers with notes like “Declined at Panera 10/6, and Declined at WalMart 10/14, etc.”

    Turns out she was a card tester for a local stolen card ring and apparently she just decided to use one of the stolen cards for a mini staycation.

    She shows up while the Sheriff is collecting evidence, gets arrested. It becomes a black hole of a case but the Sheriff’s Office says they got quite a bit to move up the line on her theft ring.

    The DA declined to prosecute her on charges of Defrauding an Innkeeper which, surprisingly, has quite a hefty fine attached. We'd have never seen the money anyway even if we'd won but I'm still salty about that.

    In the mean time, her dogs (we’re a pet friendly rental) have totally destroyed the place even beyond the quite nasty conditions she was living in, even after she had been living only a week in the unit so far.

    Two urine soaked mattresses, a destroyed couch, hopelessly soiled rugs and towels, broken plates, furniture, etc, etc.

    Between the damage and the lost income we’re out about $6k, not enough to file an insurance claim and make it worth the possible rate increase after the deductible.

    Unit was out of service for 3 days just to clean and replace items.

    VRBO’s response? ¯\(ツ)/¯

    Sadly though, we’re still using VRBO, they make up the bulk of longer term older guests who like to stay for weeks at a time. Airbnb is very much the younger, more last minute crowd.

  • Luke CarlPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tennessee Florida · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y
    Paul Sandhu Off topic. My day job is with SiriusXM thanks for subscribing! Catch me daily on 38 & 39
  • Real Estate Investor · Skippack, PA · Member since 2015 · 37 posts · 3 votes
    8y

    Paul - you should write a book. With a story that what you wrote here, I bet you have others that are just as entertaining.

  • Luke CarlPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tennessee Florida · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y
    Chewie G. I’ve seen BP take Paul Sandhu stories down they were so good lol
  • Investor · The worst town to live in, KS · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    @Luke Carl Ozzy's Boneyard is the first station on the first band of presets on my Sirius radio.  I'm going to buy your book.  I lost 30 lbs in the last 80 days on a low carb diet.

  • Investor · The worst town to live in, KS · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    Sunday I had one of my tenants (superintendent of a refinery construction company) tell me he hired a new guy and the guy needed a place to stay starting that night.  I had rented to him before.  I texted him the address and he got in there around 8:30 Sunday night.  Monday morning around 9:00 the super called me and asked if the guy ever showed up to rent the house.  I told him he did, around 8:30 pm.  The super said the guy didn't show up for the orientation at 7 am and wasn't responding to phone calls or texts.  I drove by the house, saw a contractors truck in the driveway and rang the doorbell.  No response.  By 10 am the super was concerned and wanted to know the address.  A few minutes later he said he couldn't get any response after banging on the windows and doors.  I go there with keys and we both go in.

    The guy was in his bed with his sheets around him like a mummy.  It smelled horrible in the bedroom.  The super lifted the guys legs a few times and shook him by the shoulders.  The guy was unresponsive.  I called 911 immediately and said I had an unresponsive person in a bed.  30 seconds later we hear sirens.  We move our vehicles out of the driveway.  Police car shows up, followed by an ambulance, followed by a fire truck, followed by another police car.

    Paramedics tried to awaken him with no results.  Then they started unfolding this great big heavy duty plastic bag.  I thought it was a body bag.  It was a bag with six handles.  They rolled him in his underwear onto the bag and places him on a gurney, then carted him out the door to the ambulance.  EMT's and fire department people left.  Police and I went in the bedroom and discovered K2, bath salts, spice, or whatever the street name is along with a grinder.  He overdosed.  I discovered a pile of vomit by the bed.

    The super and I put all the guys things in his truck and locked the doors.  Super kept the key.  Several hours later the super was checking on him at the hospital.  He was being discharged in his underwear and a paper gown.  He was crying.  The super bought him a hamburger and a milkshake, took my house key from him, gave him his truck keys and told him to go back home.  Police let him off with a warning for the drugs and paraphernalia, and they give him a pretty strict lecture.  The super told me he doesn't want anyone like that in his work environment, they climb up and down 250 foot tall steel structures in a petrochemical refinery.

  • Luke CarlPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tennessee Florida · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y
    @Paul Sandhu. Annnnndddddd HES BACK!!!!!! Thank god Paul how I’ve missed you
  • Real Estate Agent · Fort Walton Beach, FL · Member since 2018 · 219 posts · 275 votes
    8y

    @Paul Sandhu Lol! These are some wild stories! Never a dull day :-).

    Mine feel boring in comparison and are usually the "someone pooped in the pool" variety :-)

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