Experienced investor from Scottsdale, AZ

Experienced investor from Scottsdale, AZ

Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2014 · 659 posts · 536 votes

Hello All,

I have been an apartment investor for many years.  I have made millions and lost millions and made them again.  It is a tough business if you want to take it personally.  :)

I had built up to over 900 units at one point.  About half of those were mine and the other half were with investor money.  I lost the majority of them during the economic crash.  All of my own units were foreclosed on.  I lost one building with investors after a long hard battle. but the remainder of the investor units were able to be salvaged and were actually given decent returns in the end.

I had 500 units of my own that I had refinanced with decent rates at the time. They were leveraged at about 80% LTV which proved to be too high when the downturn happened.

We were hit hard here in AZ.  My rent collections dropped by more than 40% in a short period of time.  Apartment vacancies were much higher than reported at the time.  We went from about 6% vacant to about 25%.  On top of that, many others just were not paying.  The 40% drop was very real across all three of my properties.  I probably could have saved 125 units or so if I would have initially focused on just one property.  I burned through all my reserves real fast and went into a deep vortex.

Anyway, properties got real cheap around here.  I was able to convince a few investors that we needed to buy up some of these zero cap rate deals based on the price per unit.  I was able to buy up about 100 units. 

Prices and rents have not only rebounded but have surpassed the earlier heights in the market.  I have been selling off units recently and have dropped from 170 down to about 75. 

I recently purchased a retail strip mall in one of the very prime locations of our city.  It is difficult to buy multi-family at the prices being asked of them these days.  I can't even find fixers at a decent price.

Anyway, that is my introduction.  It is good to see so many knowledgeable people around a forum.

6Reply
82 views

Most Popular Reply

J ScottPro Member
Moderator
Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
11y

Steve,

Great to see you here!

Folks - Anyone looking for someone with real, in-the-trenches apartment, commercial and syndication experience, look no further.

Steve was one of the first people I ever talked to in this business and he was kind enough to take me to dinner and give me some great advice back before I ever bought my first property.  He's the real deal...

See this reply in the discussion

28 Replies

Jump to latestLatest
  • Developer · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2014 · 25 posts · 1 vote
    11y

    @Steve Olafson  The school is a huge catalyst to the growth - all of the office development will bring a lot of new employment that will start to change the demographic. It is a very dynamic market. I have contemplated looking for some investment opportunities around the area. 

  • Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2014 · 659 posts · 536 votes
    11y

    @Nico Fricchione 

    I have looked in Tempe before but could never get into the investment pattern there.  Property prices are very high. It is difficult to buy for cashflow there.  I don't want to rent to students either.

  • Developer · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2014 · 25 posts · 1 vote
    11y
    Steve Olafson I would agree- unrealistic sellers. Perhaps better opportunity in surrounding markets although I believe anything in a 3mile radius of the university will always be rented.
Join the conversationCreate a free account to reply, vote on answers and follow this thread.