Looking to get into rental properties in Kansas City, MO

Looking to get into rental properties in Kansas City, MO

Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 3 votes

Good afternoon, everyone!

Like many of the others who post here, I'm new to the real estate game. I'm a pretty frugal guy, been saving my whole working life, investing in stocks and bonds, etc. Now I'm ready to step up my investing game by branching out into some real estate.

I'm still in the process of reading through every real estate book I can get my hands on, and I'm very excited to start making deals in the near future. Although we are currently living in the Southern California area, my wife and I are thinking that small multifamily properties around the Kansas city area (her home town) will be our best bet. We are a dual military couple and will need to rely heavily on a good team regardless of which market we get into, due to deployments, busy work schedule, etc. 

Through my early research, KC looks like a great market for achieving good cash flow with small multifamily rentals. I also hope to leverage some of my wife's contacts in the area to meet good people with whom I can work. I am planning to use @Brandon Turner's BRRRR method to get a little bit of leverage going to eventually branch out into larger properties, which will ultimately help me reach my goal of amassing $800k of net worth by 2021! I realize this is an ambitious goal given some of the schools of thought out there on the real estate market and the dangers of getting overleveraged, but with a level head, hard work, and a little luck I think there is definitely money to be made here.

Long term, if things work out, I envision branching out into larger multifamily properties and syndicated deals. I may even look into flipping. Right now I'm really just hoping to offset my rental costs with some good cash flow and equity building; thus, my short-term goal of reaching $2k of cash flow within two years. Just let me know if this sounds a little too irrationally exuberant!

But for the moment, I'm just focused on learning the basics of researching markets, analyzing deals (including how to estimate rehab costs), how to assemble a good team, and financing options. I have realized in my readings (and listening to the awesome BiggerPockets podcast)  that who you know is about as important as anything in this business, so I look forward to making as many contacts in the KC market as I can. I also look forward to leveraging this amazing online community to learn as much as I can! Cheers!

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Investor · Aurora, CO · Member since 2013 · 55 posts · 13 votes
10y

@Thomas HolmanYou have to get the butterflies and push through them. I just closed on a flip today actually. Very nervous, like I may be missing something. I know I haven't, as my strength is analysis. I look at everything, use multiple flipping calculators and rules of thumb, I got 2 quotes from 2 different gc's, had 2 different investor friends go to the house with me and run numbers and scenarios with me. 

Fear is just an emotion. 

I almost backed out of this one. However, my investor friends encouraged me. They remind me that you cannot know EVERYTHING and also how they would've jumped into my deal at the proverbial "hello", while I'm still wondering what's up and well past "meeting the parents". 

It helps when you have other eyes on your deals and a good mentor. I probably wouldn't be doing any investing if I didn't have multiple people always telling me, "Forward!" 

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  • Kansas City, KS · Member since 2015 · 9 posts · 2 votes
    10y

    Congratulations on deciding to jump into the real estate game! Sounds like you are well on your way to establishing a solid knowledge foundation. I'm in pretty much the same boat as you, learning and aiming to get into multifamily investing, but I live here in KC. 

    I wish you the best of luck and I look forward to hearing how you do in this endeavor!

  • Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    Erik, It's great to hear from you! I'd love to hear about how you're doing so far. Are you investing in KC?

  • Rental Property Investor · Overland Park, KS · Member since 2016 · 205 posts · 85 votes
    10y

    Thomas, welcome to BP and investing in KC.  Best of luck to you!!

  • Investor · Aurora, CO · Member since 2013 · 55 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    @Thomas Holman Congrats on moving forward! How long have you been researching? You sound like me, and analyst. If that's the case or not, I just wanted to pass on some advice that helped me a lot as you continue on your journey. Don't get stuck in analysis paralysis. 

    I always look back regretting how many deals I missed out on because I hesitated and over analysed. I'd be at the $20k/mo+ passive income mark by now had I took more action and didn't get held up on analysis. Forward!

  • Bulawayo, Zimbabwe · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 253 votes
    10y

    Hello @Thomas Holman and welcome to the site

    You'll learn a lot here to realise the $800k by 2021 deadline. one trainer on the probate niche said he researched that $1trillion worth of real estate in USA will pass through the probate court by 2022, making that a large enough space.Add to that skill to analyze deals,rehab(fix and hold where necessary) and financing the property purchase.....you are there

    all the best

  • Lender · Greater LA/Orange County area, CA · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y

    @Thomas Holman Given that you are actually a Californian, I suggest you also study our state laws. You can buy a training course from First Tuesday, the Riverside, CA based publisher of training and continuing education courses for agents and brokers. Very affordable.

    I'm not suggesting you actually become an agent, however I read too many stories on BP forums where someone has missed a fundamental principal of real estate and been burned by an otherwise avoidable experience. 

    Once you understand principals and CA laws you study and contrast what different in other State(s) that you wish to invest in. 

  • Specialist · Rockland, MA · Member since 2010 · 7k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    @Thomas Holman

    Welcome. Thanks for your service. A buddy closed 242 units while deployed. We do free MultiFamily investing training for veterans EMAIL me for info my BP PM does NOT work check my profile. Fill in the foundation below.

    Check out the Start Here page http://www.biggerpockets.com/starthere

    Locate and attend 3 different local REIA club meetings great place to meet people gather resources and info. Here you will meet wholesalers who provide deals and rehabbers (cash buyers). Find them through Google and meetup.com

    Two Great reads, I bought both J. Scott The Book on Flipping Houses, The Book on Estimating ReHab Costs http://www.biggerpockets.com/flippingbook

    Consider checking out HUD homes for small multi's owner occupied gets first crack.

    Download BP’s newest book here some good due diligence in Chapter 10. Real Estate Rewind Starting over

    http://www.biggerpockets.com/files/user/brandonatbp/file/real-estate-rewind-a-biggerpockets-community-book

    Good Luck

    Paul

  • Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    @Steven Silva, thanks for the great encouragement! It's interesting that you noticed that about me, I am definitely gonna be one of those analysis paralysis people. What are some ways you fight against this paralysis and force yourself to take action? 

    Right now my major stumbling block is going to be finding a ridiculously awesome property manager where I want to invest in KC. I definitely want to jump in and take advantage of this market and start putting my money to work for me!

  • Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    @Paul Timmins I'll definitely be contacting you to check out your training!

  • Investor · Aurora, CO · Member since 2013 · 55 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    @Thomas HolmanYou have to get the butterflies and push through them. I just closed on a flip today actually. Very nervous, like I may be missing something. I know I haven't, as my strength is analysis. I look at everything, use multiple flipping calculators and rules of thumb, I got 2 quotes from 2 different gc's, had 2 different investor friends go to the house with me and run numbers and scenarios with me. 

    Fear is just an emotion. 

    I almost backed out of this one. However, my investor friends encouraged me. They remind me that you cannot know EVERYTHING and also how they would've jumped into my deal at the proverbial "hello", while I'm still wondering what's up and well past "meeting the parents". 

    It helps when you have other eyes on your deals and a good mentor. I probably wouldn't be doing any investing if I didn't have multiple people always telling me, "Forward!" 

  • Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    Wow, awesome advice @Steven Silva. There is definitely a lot to overcome for that first deal especially. I'm looking in the Kansas City market, and it does seem like the market is tightening. It's very hard to find a deal that will cash flow based on my estimates. Perhaps I'm too conservative, but looking for that right deal then moving decisively is going to be key. 

    Thanks for the insight, and good luck with your flip! 

  • Mike D'ArrigoPro Member
    Turn key provider · San Jose, CA · Member since 2010 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y

    I couldn't agree with @Steven Silva more. This was the topic of one of my shows and how to overcome analysis paralysis. You can find it on my website. Just look for the 4/23/15 show under podcasts.

  • Investor · Aurora, CO · Member since 2013 · 55 posts · 13 votes
    9y

    BTW, that flip lat year led to a bunch more flips. I made $21k gross on that flip for a 11% return or so. 

    I partnered with a couple investors I've been friends with and we've grown quite the business. We're buying about 2-3 homes a month for flipping and working on purchasing commercial multifamily in springs and kcmo. 

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