Don't know where to invest in Georgia? Help?

Don't know where to invest in Georgia? Help?

Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes

I want to sell my rental in Arizona and do a 1031 exchange to purchase a rental in Georgia to get a positive cash flow. I'm looking at purchasing around $195k in Georgia, but don't know what city in Georgia that I can get $1300+ in rents for a nice home. I don't want a fixer since I'm in California. Also, is there something I need to be aware of in Georgia? I don't know anything about Georgia.  Can you help me?

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Investor · Alpharetta, GA · Member since 2015 · 242 posts · 185 votes
9y

@Audrey James -just be extra careful before you invest for cash flow across the country. It's easy for those living here and knowing their market to suggest areas - but the possibilities of a poor investment remain high for you for the following reasons:

1. You say you don't know much about Georgia and need help.

2. There are too many variables regarding a $200K investment here. Do you want inside the beltway, or outside the beltway? Suburbs or intown? Good school district or average one, but a bigger home for $200K? Only you can make this decision.

3. Are you only investing for cash flow- or do you mean in the short term, you want cash flow? How about long term appreciation? Most areas have already experienced nice appreciation - but there are pockets that are still struggling (yes, inside Atlanta has plenty of areas off people's radar, and suburbs such as Lithonia, Stone Mountain and south Snellville, etc- are not what you would want for long term appreciation, when you can invest in more desirable areas such as Marietta, Sandy Springs, Roswell, Alpharetta, to the north, or even south suburbs are doing well - such as parts of McDonough, & Hampton, etc - where you can get a larger house for the same capital - and will cash flow just as nicely - but not experience as much upside potential. Plenty of opportunity to the west too-  Douglasville - is great too for cash flow. Tons of areas - hard to recommend just one area- it depends on what you want and are comfortable with.

4. Don't forget - if you are looking for $1300/month cash flow on a $200K investment - (which is a low ROI in my opinion) - you will need someone to manage the home. Renters everywhere tend to not pay, pay late , disappear, cause damage, etc. Subtract 10% from your monthly cash flow for a good property manager. Repairs? Subtract even more. Need to visit for some reason- subtract the cost of cross country flights, hotel. etc. Perhaps if you had multiple homes here at one time- you can reduce the burden of travel since you can manage multiple projects at the same time. But- one home may prove difficult.

To me it's looks less like a good investment, and more like a way to park cash in a house and see what ROI you can get. Why Georgia? I bet there are great cash flowing houses closer to you- like in Texas (Dallas, Houston ,San Antonio). Tons of investors there- and not as difficult to visit if needed. Georgia is great too- but I live here - it's easy for me to visit my homes and manage them myself.

Are you making your decision to invest in Georgia - due to stories you hear about how great it is to invest here? Or- do you have family or friends here that can help you with managing the home? Yes- our eviction procedure is easy and quick- compared to neighbor states. Is this one component you are considering in your decision? 

Not sure why you want to invest cross country for one home - since you do not want to rehab - and need move in ready. Just trying to have you look at both sides of the coin. Plenty of upside, and yes- plenty of downside if things go wrong. I would think it's best to make a visit to Georgia and look around for a few days before parking your capital somewhere.

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  • Investor · Savannah, GA · Member since 2017 · 39 posts · 14 votes
    9y
    Savannah and Atlanta are good markets.
  • Real Estate Agent · Canton, GA · Member since 2015 · 43 posts · 12 votes
    9y

    Cberokee County has great schools, just north of ATL low taxes, good rental area. PM me for more info. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 220 posts · 122 votes
    9y
    Where is your home in Arizona, I'm always looking
  • Real Estate Professional · Newnan, GA · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 3 votes
    9y
    Good Afternoon, we have homes down here in Coweta for the price range you are looking to be at and rental rates are right on in the area. Feel feel to send me an email and I'd be happy to help and offer you any advice. Nikki Jones
  • Doug McVinuaPro Member
    Property Manager · Queen Creek, AZ · Member since 2016 · 609 posts · 426 votes
    9y

    @Audrey James Arizona (The Valley) is always a strong market in the spring and inventory is low right now so your timing is great!

  • Investor · Warner Robins, GA · Member since 2016 · 112 posts · 70 votes
    9y

    I would suggest Parkview and Brookwood school districts outside of Atlanta in that price point. I am under contract to sell a house in Parkview for $185,000 cash that I was renting for $1,400 to give you some perspective.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    Thank you Lee.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    Lee, is this in Lilburn, GA 30047 for Parkview?

  • Rental Property Investor · Clarkston, GA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    Zillow rental setting rent amount filter finds where decent rent areas are.

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_rent/GA/house,mob...

    The problem is what do you need to pay for a $1300/mo rent house + rehab, thus resulting in the rentals performance "cap rate". CA'ers think its cheap everywhere except in CA, so houses seem cheap in the Atlanta metro area. Yet cap rates for houses bought off MLS (over priced) may perform between poorly 8% and 10% in the Atlanta metro counties, which in my business is too low. My business rules do not allow me to buy in the metro counties. True you can do 13%-15% in rough areas, I don't do rough areas see my buying guide below.

    Your real problem is finding good cap rate houses, that also appreciate and are easy to manage.  I suggest you down load the file I uploaded off my profile.  Right side lower down.  Bullet Proof rentals.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Justin Owens:
    Where is your home in Arizona, I'm always looking

     Surprise, Arizona, 3 bedroom

  • Rental Property Investor · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes
    9y

    @Audrey James If it were me doing that I would buy in one of the really good school districts of Atlanta. John's Creek, East Cobb County, Gwinnett County. Or you can got to one of the smaller towns a bit farther out and get better returns. Kennesaw, Marietta, Cartersville, Canton on my side or go to some similar towns on the highways Northeast side. 

  • Investor · Bonaire, GA · Member since 2014 · 177 posts · 82 votes
    9y

    Warner Robins.  Just bought a 4 bed house for 52, put 4 in it, am renting for 950/month.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Amy E.:

    Warner Robins.  Just bought a 4 bed house for 52, put 4 in it, am renting for 950/month.

     That's great Amy.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Jeff Kehl:

    @Audrey James If it were me doing that I would buy in one of the really good school districts of Atlanta. John's Creek, East Cobb County, Gwinnett County. Or you can got to one of the smaller towns a bit farther out and get better returns. Kennesaw, Marietta, Cartersville, Canton on my side or go to some similar towns on the highways Northeast side. 

     I will check this area also Jeff.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    I will check out all the areas you mentioned. Thanks for all your help.

  • Developer · Decatur, GA · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Audrey James Hold on to your money until you're ready to fly to Atlanta and learn the market.  Atlanta is about like LA -- sprawling with many significant submarkets.   In GA, you have the opportunity to invest for cash flow, appreciation, or a blend depending on your submarket.   

  • Investor · Coarsegold, CA · Member since 2014 · 1 post · 1 vote
    9y

    I am in California and about to close on a house in Bonaire, GA.

    I highly recommend speaking to Alyson O'Brien at Golden Key Realty in Warner Robins.

    She has been excellent to work with and has 20 years experience in the area. She knows the rental market well and really listens to what you want. She is easy to reach by email, a stickler for little details, and on top of everything. She has made this "site unseen" purchasing process a breeze!

  • Auburn, GA · Member since 2015 · 58 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    In my opinion you need a great team here first especially a investor friendly agent and property management company. They can go to the properties,tour them for you and be boots on the ground. Its a win-win-win in my opinion.

  • Rental Property Investor · Evans, GA · Member since 2014 · 74 posts · 65 votes
    9y

    check out Columbia County GA.  It is adjacent to Augusta and Fort Gordon which is now the primary Cyber command for the US Army.  There is significant job growth in other sectors as well, but there is currently a halt on new subdivisions so the county infrastructure can catch up.  The public schools are excellent (in contrast of Richmond county or Augusta public schools) and prices are still reasonable.  If you're looking for long term buy and hold it would be a good bet.  

  • Real Estate Investor · Jonesboro, GA · Member since 2013 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    9y
    Gwinnett County is generally good..They have good school systems, appreciation is there.. Cobb County is another good one if you can beat the other investors to the deal, deals don't last long there. I'd suggest getting boots on the ground here, good deals don't last long. Many investors here that can pull the trigger on deals with No Due diligence.
  • Suwanee, GA · Member since 2016 · 16 posts · 7 votes
    9y

    HI Audrey, the funds you've mentioned should go far in Georgia.  While there are some amazing buys in Georgia, the growth and future appreciation will probably be more reliable in the Atlanta Market.  As usual, you've already received some very sound advice... school systems are one of the better indicators of both appreciation, as well as attracting favorable tenants.  There are loads of education rankings available on the internet and you may want to review some of those to validate anything you hear from a potential consultant.  Personally, I like all the Forsyth county schools and the county is one of the fastest growing.   I also like those in the North Fulton county area, cities like Roswell and Alpharetta.  But you may also want to check out the Buford city school area.  All of these areas are growing at a very fast pace right now.  Good luck in Georgia, of course I'm a bit biased... but I think you're making a wise choice.

  • Real Estate Investor · Cumming, GA · Member since 2016 · 60 posts · 12 votes
    9y

    I second Cumming Ga (Forsyth County). Schools are tops.

  • Robert GilstrapPro Member
    Residential Real Estate Broker · Cartersville, GA · Member since 2015 · 575 posts · 581 votes
    9y

    @Audrey James  been investing in metro Atlanta for 25+ years now and you can find plenty of good deals given your parameters. I personally invest in the I-75 corridor. I stay out of properties inside the perimeter (I like suburbs) From just outside the I-285 perimeter heading north and west Marietta, Kennesaw, Acworth (all 3 in Cobb County), and then into Emerson and Cartersville (both Bartow County).  I also love Woodstock, and parts of Canton (Cherokee County).

    Great rent to price ratios, low taxes, great schools, low crime, high employment, extremely favorable landlord tenant laws. If you need help give me a shout.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Robert Gilstrap:

    @Audrey James  been investing in metro Atlanta for 25+ years now and you can find plenty of good deals given your parameters. I personally invest in the I-75 corridor. I stay out of properties inside the perimeter (I like suburbs) From just outside the I-285 perimeter heading north and west Marietta, Kennesaw, Acworth (all 3 in Cobb County), and then into Emerson and Cartersville (both Bartow County).  I also love Woodstock, and parts of Canton (Cherokee County).

    Great rent to price ratios, low taxes, great schools, low crime, high employment, extremely favorable landlord tenant laws. If you need help give me a shout.

     Thank you so much Robert. I will check out these areas.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oakland, CA · Member since 2009 · 51 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    WOW.....thank you everyone for the great advice. I have some homework to do now.

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