Halfway Houses for recovering drug addicts

Halfway Houses for recovering drug addicts

Rental Property Investor · Des Plaines, IL · Member since 2015 · 13 posts · 5 votes

Hey Everyone, If you are experienced with investing in halfway houses I'd love to talk with you and maybe chat over a cup of coffee sometime. I live in the Golden/Denver area. Also if you know anyone familiar with this area of investing it would be appreciated if you could tag them in this forum. Thank you so much.

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Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2011 · 28 posts · 23 votes
10y

Hey @Jacob Wohlgemuth,

I've looked into this myself in depth. As @Trevor Eweneluded to, you need to be sure you're covered insurance wise. I'm only familiar with this in the Texas market so take it for what it is worth. There is a difference between a "Half-Way" house and a "Sober Living Community". The former requires state licensing, licensed chemical dependency counselors on staff, etc. A sober living community is more just a house where the residents self govern. Obviously being licensed, a half-way house can charge more per bed. Here are the big issues that I ran into, which ultimately kept me from pulling the trigger at the time (not to say I won't revisit). You need to spend a lot of time networking at rehab facilities, counselor's offices, etc. because you are constantly turning beds. You would at least need to hire a full time manager/director if you are not planning on doing this yourself. The average stay per bed was between 2-3 months. So let's say you turned a 4 bedroom house into a 8-11 bed facility, you are turning each bed 4-5 times a year....better have a solid pipeline. Also, in my market to be competitive the houses need to be furnished (and not with crappy stuff from the side of the road), and you need to at least provide dinners during the week (which presents it's own logistic difficulties and cost difficulties). When I started putting numbers to paper, it looked like I was going to need at least 3 houses with at least 8 beds each for it to make sense. The main issue for me was the time management, this was something I was looking into for a relatively passive investment and it became clear that was not going to happen, especially at the beginning. That was my experience looking into it as a business, not to say it can't be done because it absolutely can be. It just wasn't something I had the time to dedicate to. Feel free to reach out to me and I can discuss in more detail with you. 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Weehawken, NJ · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 704 votes
    10y

    I think you should definitely check out the show with Glenn McCrorey: https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2015/02/1...

    The niche is not the same, but definitely a nice intro to niche investing. Good luck.

  • Investor · SSF, CA · Member since 2015 · 127 posts · 24 votes
    10y

    I know some people who have done this.  The insurance is the big hidden cost.  As long as you can swing that and the cost of having certain certified people onsite, it can be a very lucrative business.

  • Investor · Cedar Rapids, IA · Member since 2013 · 494 posts · 407 votes
    10y

    @Jacob Wohlgemuth  My key word search picked up on "lucrative'.. just kidding, my name popped up.  Like @Trevor Ewen said, what I do is different than half way houses but similar.  I rent to companies that provide community based living services to individuals with developmental disabilities, traumatic brain injuries, etc.  The companies provide the staff, I just rent the houses to them.

    I don't carry any special insurance @Roger Rustadjust the normal policy one would have on a rental property.  I also have an umbrella policy in addition for additional liability coverage.  I know the companies I rent to have liability insurance as well.

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2011 · 28 posts · 23 votes
    10y

    Hey @Jacob Wohlgemuth,

    I've looked into this myself in depth. As @Trevor Eweneluded to, you need to be sure you're covered insurance wise. I'm only familiar with this in the Texas market so take it for what it is worth. There is a difference between a "Half-Way" house and a "Sober Living Community". The former requires state licensing, licensed chemical dependency counselors on staff, etc. A sober living community is more just a house where the residents self govern. Obviously being licensed, a half-way house can charge more per bed. Here are the big issues that I ran into, which ultimately kept me from pulling the trigger at the time (not to say I won't revisit). You need to spend a lot of time networking at rehab facilities, counselor's offices, etc. because you are constantly turning beds. You would at least need to hire a full time manager/director if you are not planning on doing this yourself. The average stay per bed was between 2-3 months. So let's say you turned a 4 bedroom house into a 8-11 bed facility, you are turning each bed 4-5 times a year....better have a solid pipeline. Also, in my market to be competitive the houses need to be furnished (and not with crappy stuff from the side of the road), and you need to at least provide dinners during the week (which presents it's own logistic difficulties and cost difficulties). When I started putting numbers to paper, it looked like I was going to need at least 3 houses with at least 8 beds each for it to make sense. The main issue for me was the time management, this was something I was looking into for a relatively passive investment and it became clear that was not going to happen, especially at the beginning. That was my experience looking into it as a business, not to say it can't be done because it absolutely can be. It just wasn't something I had the time to dedicate to. Feel free to reach out to me and I can discuss in more detail with you. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Des Plaines, IL · Member since 2015 · 13 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    Thanks everyone for your responses!

    It looks like my biggest thing I need to look into is the insurance I would need.

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