How to Deal With a Mindset Shift Different From Those Around You

How to Deal With a Mindset Shift Different From Those Around You

Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2021 · 231 posts · 188 votes

Before I bought my first property 2 months ago, I spent a year and a half educating myself on real estate through books/podcasts/Biggerpockets. During this time I managed to save up a good chunk of change (about $15k) from working a lot of OT and moving back in with my parents. Once I felt ready, I packed up everything I owned and my 2 cats and drove across the country to Columbus, Ohio to begin my investing journey (July 2022). 

I found that during the time I spent learning about how to obtain financial freedom through real estate, I began growing apart from a majority of my friends who I had grown up around and always hung out with. I started realizing that I was constantly trying to better my knowledge, life and just the path I was on while they were stuck doing the same thing day in and day out with no aspirations to create a better future for themselves or their family. After having this mindset shift for about 2 years now, I still talk to all my same friends but we don't really relate on anything, and whenever I've tried to teach them things or give them recommendations to better their financial situations/future, they kind of blow me off or think I am being cocky when I talk about the things I am accomplishing. 

Since moving to Columbus, I haven't really made many friends and when I try to, we just don't really have much in common. I guess my questions are: How do you deal with a mindset shift when no one around you is on the same page? Would it be crappy of me to kind of start cutting ties with people who have been "friends" for over a decade just because we never have things in common and can never talk about my passions with them? How do you find new friends when you just moved across the country and don't know anybody? 

I really want to surround myself with like-minded people who also love real estate, or are just about growing in general. I would love to make friends or connections with those who are very similar to myself. I don't ever want to get complacent and I feel like everyone around me at the moment is. I'm sure I am not the only one dealing with this struggle, so all input and/or advice would be awesome as I am sure many of us could benefit from it. Thanks!

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Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2017 · 84 posts · 107 votes
3y
Quote from @Thomas O'Donnell:

 Would it be crappy of me to kind of start cutting ties with people who have been "friends" for over a decade just because we never have things in common and can never talk about my passions with them? 

I really want to surround myself with like-minded people who also love real estate, or are just about growing in general. I would love to make friends or connections with those who are very similar to myself. I don't ever want to get complacent and I feel like everyone around me at the moment is. 

I excerpted two parts of your post here. 

Yes, it would be crappy to start cutting ties with your friends because they don't share one common interest with you. It would not be crappy to start cutting ties with your friends that generally do not support or care about you as an individual, or hold you back from life in general. Be very careful to not put yourself on a pedestal and think that you have an upper edge on your friends or on life because you have the drive and a goal to get there. Be very careful to see the difference between "judgement" and "different". It can be easy to start to feel that you are better then others because you have the drive, you have the goal, you are going to make it. That doesn't make you better. It makes you different.  It is possible to surround yourself with like-minded people who can feed that part of you in RE that is driven, but you also need your friends that are your friends to enjoy life with and check the boxes of friends - fun, supportive, caring, etc. 

I struggled with the same thing for a long time. I packed everything I had into my Honda and moved myself 700 miles away to San Diego at 18. Some of my friends do not really care to better themselves or their situation. I come from a place of understanding this and unconditionally accepting it. Just because you accept it, does not mean that you have to agree with it. For me the hardest part is seeing these people I care about, sitting on money or sitting on opportunity that they could help themselves with live a better life but because of 'x' 'y' or 'z' they do not. But they check the boxes in everything else and we are friends. Then, I also have my circle of like minded individuals that I have met along the way on my investing journey, and those people share the same mindset and lift me up in this category.  

Feel free to reach out anytime to talk, and congratulations on taking the step for yourself. That takes courage and it takes heart! It will all make sense for you one day.  

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  • Rental Property Investor · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2022 · 125 posts · 124 votes
    3y

    I think this has a lot to do with your age demographic. Most people in your Generation Z are scared to make big decisions, even delaying getting their drivers license. I would not recommend cutting ties with your existing friends just because they aren't into real estate investing, unless they are negative influences. I would suggest joining a local REI group and continue talking about your passion with everyone you meet. You might just be the person to influence your friends into having a mind shift of their own some day.

  • Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2021 · 231 posts · 188 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Account Closed:

    I think this has a lot to do with your age demographic. Most people in your Generation Z are scared to make big decisions, even delaying getting their drivers license. I would not recommend cutting ties with your existing friends just because they aren't into real estate investing, unless they are negative influences. I would suggest joining a local REI group and continue talking about your passion with everyone you meet. You might just be the person to influence your friends into having a mind shift of their own some day.


    Unfortunately, most of them have bad habits and I do not see 95% of them ever making a change. I am pretty much the odd one out. I feel that we no longer relate on anything therefore making it hard to even have conversations sometimes. But yes I do need to look for some REI groups or maybe trying to host my own meetups out here just so people can get connected and network.

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2022 · 125 posts · 124 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Thomas O'Donnell:
    Quote from @Account Closed:

    I think this has a lot to do with your age demographic. Most people in your Generation Z are scared to make big decisions, even delaying getting their drivers license. I would not recommend cutting ties with your existing friends just because they aren't into real estate investing, unless they are negative influences. I would suggest joining a local REI group and continue talking about your passion with everyone you meet. You might just be the person to influence your friends into having a mind shift of their own some day.


    Unfortunately, most of them have bad habits and I do not see 95% of them ever making a change. I am pretty much the odd one out. I feel that we no longer relate on anything therefore making it hard to even have conversations sometimes. But yes I do need to look for some REI groups or maybe trying to host my own meetups out here just so people can get connected and network.

    Yeah you might want to cut ties with them then. “You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with.” - Jim Rohn (self made millionaire by the age of 31). Highly recommend reading some of his books. 
  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y

    Go to meetups, be active on Facebook, talk to realtors and lenders everyday. You will realize that it's a small world with people doing the bulk of the business 

  • Lender · Columbus, OH · Member since 2020 · 202 posts · 214 votes
    3y

    I went through something similar. I was born in New York and lived in the state of Delaware for a good portion of my life so the mindset that I’m at now living in Ohio is totally different. You should try to go to real estate meet ups and when you get to a place that you can go to BPcon or any other real estate conference, go! If you’re interested you can come to a meet up that’s at my office, hosted by another investor colleague of mine. I met the majority of the people I hang out with and talk to everyday there. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2021 · 231 posts · 188 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Ashley Cross:

    I went through something similar. I was born in New York and lived in the state of Delaware for a good portion of my life so the mindset that I’m at now living in Ohio is totally different. You should try to go to real estate meet ups and when you get to a place that you can go to BPcon or any other real estate conference, go! If you’re interested you can come to a meet up that’s at my office, hosted by another investor colleague of mine. I met the majority of the people I hang out with and talk to everyday there. 


     Awesome! Where are your meet ups usually located and when? 

  • Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2017 · 84 posts · 107 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Thomas O'Donnell:

     Would it be crappy of me to kind of start cutting ties with people who have been "friends" for over a decade just because we never have things in common and can never talk about my passions with them? 

    I really want to surround myself with like-minded people who also love real estate, or are just about growing in general. I would love to make friends or connections with those who are very similar to myself. I don't ever want to get complacent and I feel like everyone around me at the moment is. 

    I excerpted two parts of your post here. 

    Yes, it would be crappy to start cutting ties with your friends because they don't share one common interest with you. It would not be crappy to start cutting ties with your friends that generally do not support or care about you as an individual, or hold you back from life in general. Be very careful to not put yourself on a pedestal and think that you have an upper edge on your friends or on life because you have the drive and a goal to get there. Be very careful to see the difference between "judgement" and "different". It can be easy to start to feel that you are better then others because you have the drive, you have the goal, you are going to make it. That doesn't make you better. It makes you different.  It is possible to surround yourself with like-minded people who can feed that part of you in RE that is driven, but you also need your friends that are your friends to enjoy life with and check the boxes of friends - fun, supportive, caring, etc. 

    I struggled with the same thing for a long time. I packed everything I had into my Honda and moved myself 700 miles away to San Diego at 18. Some of my friends do not really care to better themselves or their situation. I come from a place of understanding this and unconditionally accepting it. Just because you accept it, does not mean that you have to agree with it. For me the hardest part is seeing these people I care about, sitting on money or sitting on opportunity that they could help themselves with live a better life but because of 'x' 'y' or 'z' they do not. But they check the boxes in everything else and we are friends. Then, I also have my circle of like minded individuals that I have met along the way on my investing journey, and those people share the same mindset and lift me up in this category.  

    Feel free to reach out anytime to talk, and congratulations on taking the step for yourself. That takes courage and it takes heart! It will all make sense for you one day.  

  • Joe S.Pro Member
    Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    I wouldn’t say you’re cutting your friends off. It sounds like all involved are growing distant from each other due to life choices. This is natural and it’s part of growing up. I know it’s hard to accept, but this is the way of life.

  • Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2021 · 231 posts · 188 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Peter Eberhardt:
    Quote from @Thomas O'Donnell:

     Would it be crappy of me to kind of start cutting ties with people who have been "friends" for over a decade just because we never have things in common and can never talk about my passions with them? 

    I really want to surround myself with like-minded people who also love real estate, or are just about growing in general. I would love to make friends or connections with those who are very similar to myself. I don't ever want to get complacent and I feel like everyone around me at the moment is. 

    I excerpted two parts of your post here. 

    Yes, it would be crappy to start cutting ties with your friends because they don't share one common interest with you. It would not be crappy to start cutting ties with your friends that generally do not support or care about you as an individual, or hold you back from life in general. Be very careful to not put yourself on a pedestal and think that you have an upper edge on your friends or on life because you have the drive and a goal to get there. Be very careful to see the difference between "judgement" and "different". It can be easy to start to feel that you are better then others because you have the drive, you have the goal, you are going to make it. That doesn't make you better. It makes you different.  It is possible to surround yourself with like-minded people who can feed that part of you in RE that is driven, but you also need your friends that are your friends to enjoy life with and check the boxes of friends - fun, supportive, caring, etc. 

    I struggled with the same thing for a long time. I packed everything I had into my Honda and moved myself 700 miles away to San Diego at 18. Some of my friends do not really care to better themselves or their situation. I come from a place of understanding this and unconditionally accepting it. Just because you accept it, does not mean that you have to agree with it. For me the hardest part is seeing these people I care about, sitting on money or sitting on opportunity that they could help themselves with live a better life but because of 'x' 'y' or 'z' they do not. But they check the boxes in everything else and we are friends. Then, I also have my circle of like minded individuals that I have met along the way on my investing journey, and those people share the same mindset and lift me up in this category.  

    Feel free to reach out anytime to talk, and congratulations on taking the step for yourself. That takes courage and it takes heart! It will all make sense for you one day.  


     Thank you so much for this post! I appreciate what you said and I definitely agree with a lot of it. One thing that is kindve tough for me is that with one of my groups of friends, I try talking about real estate or just what’s going on with my life in general about it and they show no interest or they don’t care how it’s going. And that same group I’ve tried to help before or give some learning recommendations like books and stuff, but they always joke about real estate and that it’s unattainable and kindve treat it as a joke which honestly can upset me sometimes. I do have other friends though that I know care about me and what I’m doing but just aren’t interested in real estate which is totally cool. I guess what I’m saying is I might need to cut off certain people not because they don’t have interest in real estate, but because they don’t tend to care about my wins/losses in the same way that I do for them. And I don’t appreciate them blowing off the things I say and making a joke about stuff that they know I’m passionate about. 

  • Investor · Union County, NJ · Member since 2022 · 92 posts · 51 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Joe S.:

    I wouldn’t say you’re cutting your friends off. It sounds like all involved are growing distant from each other due to life choices. This is natural and it’s part of growing up. I know it’s hard to accept, but this is the way of life.

    This is fundamentally the position I planned to take as I read through responses. The people I spent time with in my 20s are barely in my life. I still see a couple of them when I'm in town and it is good to catch up, but when you change your context so dramatically--new town, new way of living, etc.--you are bound to want to spend more time with people you relate to better.

    You don't have to "cut ties" with anyone who isn't holding you back or cutting you down, but you don't have to work overtime to maintain friendships that don't make sense anymore. If some of these relationships fade out, that is life, I agree. If some keep up with you and don't necessarily have the same ambitions, that's fine. As long as you have each other's interests in mind and still get along, I don't see why you can't stay in touch, at least. But as you transform your life into what you envision for yourself, I think you do need to begin to populate it with the people who help you become your best self. 

  • Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2017 · 84 posts · 107 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Thomas O'Donnell:

    that same group I’ve tried to help before or give some learning recommendations like books and stuff, but they always joke about real estate and that it’s unattainable and kindve treat it as a joke which honestly can upset me sometimes.... I guess what I’m saying is I might need to cut off certain people not because they don’t have interest in real estate, but because they don’t tend to care about my wins/losses in the same way that I do for them. And I don’t appreciate them blowing off the things I say and making a joke about stuff that they know I’m passionate about. 

    Yes, it wouldn't be in your best interest to keep people around that drain you. It would be in your best interest to be aware of your thoughts, feelings, and mindset as you shift away from these people. 

    I don't recommend "cutting people off" like cold turkey. I recommend follow what feels good to you and what you naturally away towards. If it doesn't feel good to be blown off or making jokes that you are sensitive too, then naturally your desire to continue to talk with them as frequently will decrease. Check in with yourself when you want to reach out to someone and ask yourself "why exactly do I want to reach out to this person". 

     Over time, life will phase out the wrong people for you and phase in the right people. 


  • Investor · Member since 2021 · 591 posts · 695 votes
    3y

    @Thomas O'Donnell I think that what you describe is fairly common for RE investors (I've experienced similar things myself).

    First, let's break down the possible reasons for why your old friends act this way, and then I'll provide a few actionable suggestions for what you might do to address the issue...

    The issue often begins because people (including RE investors) naturally want to talk about 1) their successes, and 2) what interests them. RE investors are, of course, interested in RE investing--and especially when we first start succeeding at RE, we naturally want to talk about it with everyone. Success is often sweetest when it's shared, so when we succeed at our first house hack, BRRR, etc., our natural inclination is to share that with our friends!

    The problem, of course, is that most people are NOT interested in RE investing (hard to imagine, I know!).  Moreover, some people aren't good at being happy for their friends' successes--and some people even resent their friends' successes (more on that in a moment). 

    Side note: This is a big difference between investors and non-investors: As investors, whenever we see someone succeed at investing, our natural tendency is to be curious about how they succeeded--we spend countless hours listening to podcasts and watching YouTube videos about other investors' successes...sometimes, we even pay to learn about other peoples' successes (for instance, we buy books on the topic). A NON-investor reacts the opposite way; they see others' investing success, and they're either disinterested, or actively repulsed. In a nutshell: investors are drawn to other peoples' investing success, and non-investors are often pushed away by other peoples' investing success.

    Why are non-investors repulsed by investors' success? A lot of this comes down to the fact that, as a successful investor, you have something your old friends don't have (and if they had it, they would be happy for you!). If your friends were also successful RE investors, they'd be cheering you on, but because they don't have that type of success, they resent you. This phenomenon occurs in other contexts too; for instance, a person who's happily married will be happy for their best friend's happy marriage...but, a person who's unhappily single (or unhappily married) might resent their friend's happy marriage. Someone who's overweight and struggling to get in shape might resent their friend who seems to effortlessly have six-pack abs. etc., etc.   

    Try to put yourself in your friends' shoes, and it will be easier to understand this type of resentment. For instance, imagine you're working a dead-end job you hate, barely managing to pay the bills, and you see no future for yourself ...but your real estate investor friend has a 7 figure net worth! You work so hard and get nowhere, but your investor friend skates by doing something they love, and they make millions! You drive a clapped-out, twenty year old Civic, but your friend drives a new S class! Your boss makes your life miserable, meanwhile your friend doesn't even have a boss! Why is life so unfair to you!?

    ...See how easy it would be to become resentful? It's almost unavoidable. In fact, I think it's very important to remember that most of us would become resentful in that scenario!  ...It all boils down to: "you have something I don't have, but I wish I had it, and that makes me resent you."

    I'm not necessarily saying that's "right", I'm just saying it's how people often naturally behave.

    A strange irony is that it's often the resentful people who will ask the successful friend to share what they have (for instance, by asking them for money, or for an opportunity), but when their successful friend gives them what they want, they resent them for that, too!  ...life's weird.

    So, what can be done?

    I'd suggest trying the following three things:

    1. Try to empathize with your old friends by understanding why they react this way. Importantly, try to remember that if you were in their shoes (no success, no future, working a job you hate), there's a solid chance you would react the same way--it's just human nature.

    2. Cut back on how often you talk about RE investing with your old friends...in fact, don't bring it up unless they bring it up. It's clear that RE investing just isn't common ground you share with your old friends. However, you became friends with them for a reason--you shared common ground on something (e.g.; maybe you liked the same music, maybe you had the same sense of humor, etc.). Think about that common ground, and see if you can use it to re-kindle the old friendships...or, try to find new common ground...

    As you do this, keep in mind: being interested in RE investing shouldn't be a prerequisite to friendship (if it is, you'll end up with a very lopsided friend group!). Also, being disinterested in RE shouldn't be viewed as a problem, or character flaw (if it is, you'll start seeing a lot of people as pretty flawed--which isn't an enjoyable way to go through life). There are lots of other things you can find in common with your old friends, while discussing RE investing with your new friends!


    3. Speaking of that, try to make new friends who are RE investors
    (as others mentioned, there are lots of ways to do this--I'd suggest checking our your local REIA).

    Doing these three things won't be easy--they take maturity, impulse control, and effort. Also, there's no guarantee of success--no matter what you do, some friendships just aren't made to last (that's just a reality of life that we all face).   ...but, put in the effort, and you might find yourself with two very different, but very meaningful friend groups.

    Good luck out there!

  • Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2021 · 231 posts · 188 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Leo R.:

    @Thomas O'Donnell I think that what you describe is fairly common for RE investors (I've experienced similar things myself).

    First, let's break down the possible reasons for why your old friends act this way, and then I'll provide a few actionable suggestions for what you might do to address the issue...

    The issue often begins because people (including RE investors) naturally want to talk about 1) their successes, and 2) what interests them. RE investors are, of course, interested in RE investing--and especially when we first start succeeding at RE, we naturally want to talk about it with everyone. Success is often sweetest when it's shared, so when we succeed at our first house hack, BRRR, etc., our natural inclination is to share that with our friends!

    The problem, of course, is that most people are NOT interested in RE investing (hard to imagine, I know!).  Moreover, some people aren't good at being happy for their friends' successes--and some people even resent their friends' successes (more on that in a moment). 

    Side note: This is a big difference between investors and non-investors: As investors, whenever we see someone succeed at investing, our natural tendency is to be curious about how they succeeded--we spend countless hours listening to podcasts and watching YouTube videos about other investors' successes...sometimes, we even pay to learn about other peoples' successes (for instance, we buy books on the topic). A NON-investor reacts the opposite way; they see others' investing success, and they're either disinterested, or actively repulsed. In a nutshell: investors are drawn to other peoples' investing success, and non-investors are often pushed away by other peoples' investing success.

    Why are non-investors repulsed by investors' success? A lot of this comes down to the fact that, as a successful investor, you have something your old friends don't have (and if they had it, they would be happy for you!). If your friends were also successful RE investors, they'd be cheering you on, but because they don't have that type of success, they resent you. This phenomenon occurs in other contexts too; for instance, a person who's happily married will be happy for their best friend's happy marriage...but, a person who's unhappily single (or unhappily married) might resent their friend's happy marriage. Someone who's overweight and struggling to get in shape might resent their friend who seems to effortlessly have six-pack abs. etc., etc.   

    Try to put yourself in your friends' shoes, and it will be easier to understand this type of resentment. For instance, imagine you're working a dead-end job you hate, barely managing to pay the bills, and you see no future for yourself ...but your real estate investor friend has a 7 figure net worth! You work so hard and get nowhere, but your investor friend skates by doing something they love, and they make millions! You drive a clapped-out, twenty year old Civic, but your friend drives a new S class! Your boss makes your life miserable, meanwhile your friend doesn't even have a boss! Why is life so unfair to you!?

    ...See how easy it would be to become resentful? It's almost unavoidable. In fact, I think it's very important to remember that most of us would become resentful in that scenario!  ...It all boils down to: "you have something I don't have, but I wish I had it, and that makes me resent you."

    I'm not necessarily saying that's "right", I'm just saying it's how people often naturally behave.

    A strange irony is that it's often the resentful people who will ask the successful friend to share what they have (for instance, by asking them for money, or for an opportunity), but when their successful friend gives them what they want, they resent them for that, too!  ...life's weird.

    So, what can be done?

    I'd suggest trying the following three things:

    1. Try to empathize with your old friends by understanding why they react this way. Importantly, try to remember that if you were in their shoes (no success, no future, working a job you hate), there's a solid chance you would react the same way--it's just human nature.

    2. Cut back on how often you talk about RE investing with your old friends...in fact, don't bring it up unless they bring it up. It's clear that RE investing just isn't common ground you share with your old friends. However, you became friends with them for a reason--you shared common ground on something (e.g.; maybe you liked the same music, maybe you had the same sense of humor, etc.). Think about that common ground, and see if you can use it to re-kindle the old friendships...or, try to find new common ground...

    As you do this, keep in mind: being interested in RE investing shouldn't be a prerequisite to friendship (if it is, you'll end up with a very lopsided friend group!). Also, being disinterested in RE shouldn't be viewed as a problem, or character flaw (if it is, you'll start seeing a lot of people as pretty flawed--which isn't an enjoyable way to go through life). There are lots of other things you can find in common with your old friends, while discussing RE investing with your new friends!


    3. Speaking of that, try to make new friends who are RE investors
    (as others mentioned, there are lots of ways to do this--I'd suggest checking our your local REIA).

    Doing these three things won't be easy--they take maturity, impulse control, and effort. Also, there's no guarantee of success--no matter what you do, some friendships just aren't made to last (that's just a reality of life that we all face).   ...but, put in the effort, and you might find yourself with two very different, but very meaningful friend groups.

    Good luck out there!


     AMAZING POST! Love everything you said, thank you for all of that! Makes so much sense and I appreciate you taking the time to post that. Some very valuable stuff in there I hope other people read it as well.

  • I​nvestor & Agent · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    Just a thought here. The more trips around the sun I make the more I realize, it's okay to keep old friends - but its also okay to have boundaries that are usually unspoken of. I've got GREAT friends who do not have an investor or entrepreneurial spirit but I'll gladly go grab a cold Old Fashioned with them, and have some laughs. Heck it's actually becoming important to me to keep those relationships as RE / REI turns into "work talk" and theres something about keeping your OG's from back in the day who remember your stupid side (mine seems to keep popping up!). While doing that, it's ALSO good to get new friends, new relationships who inspire you, motivate you by their example and not just words. Really, as adulthood continues on, it's not like these realtionships and friendships will be your mom and dad. No one is coming. You eat what you kill. You gotta get up and get out there, so at best, the new relationships will help you be motivated and inspired to do more, go further, etc but they won't nor should they do it for you.

  • Real Estate Broker · Columbus, OH · Member since 2014 · 33 posts · 17 votes
    3y

    Moving cross country is hard.  Keeping friendships are harder!  Columbus is an extremely friendly city (I'm a transplant from Cincinnati for 20 years now).  You will make quick friends.  Trust me.  I'm sure there are meet up groups and the like.  There is a lot of networking you can do in CBus.  Hope to see you around.

  • Lender · San Diego · Member since 2022 · 57 posts · 28 votes
    3y

    @Thomas O'Donnell I am in full support of what some others have said here already. Know who you want to be surrounded by and be friends with and then put a plan together to meet those types of people. Best ways to do this is to go to meetups and networking for real estate professionals to start. You'll meet like-minded people and from there you'll find that your people have diverse professional/skill set backgrounds which will expand your network/friends. Start small and then branch outward. Moving to a new city is not easy and give you a ton of credit in doing so.

  • Sarita ScherpereelBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 659 posts · 376 votes
    3y

    Hi @Thomas O'Donnell First off, just by being in this community you know you're not alone. By being here and posting you're surrounding yourself with the influence you might not see IRL. 

    Attending local meet ups might be a great way to connect with people IRL. Attend a few before you decide if you like it or not. Sometimes the first one can be the most awkward but you have to show up to be seen. And when you're around enough people will remember you and hopefully some friendships will form! 

    You're on the right path! 

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