Investor · Cedar Park, TX · Member since 2016 · 463 posts · 177 votes
9y
From a painting point of view it is a very bad idea not to paint primer. Do understand that primer and paint do two different things. Shiny ceilings show a lot of the issues you might have with your ceilings and over time it will look bad. A nice flat / satin is what I use on ceilings.
Primer doesn't hold up to water / air born vaper / steam / and humidity. However, I good quality latex paint can stop water from making its way past into the sheet rock. It will also stop the primer from turning a yellow color over time. And it’s easy to wipe clean once you have a coat of paint on it. I know it’s not fun painting ceilings, it can be a pain in the neck but let’s do the job right the first time and put a coat of paint on it.
Investor · PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 602 votes
9y
Primer and paint is basically the same anyway except primer usually sticks better. Some primer even has a nice sheen to it anyway and you cannot tell the difference.
We only ever use Kilz (Off Brand, Better product) for our final coat of paint on our ceilings. looks good ans smells fine. Never used the Oil Base stuff. We just finished a bad smoker house too. Wife and i live there with our 6 month old and you would never know there was a smoker in the place. 2 coats of off brand kilz...
Paint guy we trust said that kilz did a great job branding their product as THE brand that removes smell, stains, nastyness... But the truth is, other companies make great products too. Some even better than kilz for about the same price.
Top coat will hold up longer and be easier to clean than primer. Primer is formulated for adhesion to the substrate and for the top coat to adhere to it. The top coat I would expect to hold color longer and not pick up dirt as easily. Personally I would put a top coat on but just a primer may serve the purpose depending on what you are looking for. Obviously a ceiling doesn't get a whole lot of wear. I would definitely never do just primer for a customer.
Investor · Cedar Park, TX · Member since 2016 · 463 posts · 177 votes
9y
From a painting point of view it is a very bad idea not to paint primer. Do understand that primer and paint do two different things. Shiny ceilings show a lot of the issues you might have with your ceilings and over time it will look bad. A nice flat / satin is what I use on ceilings.
Primer doesn't hold up to water / air born vaper / steam / and humidity. However, I good quality latex paint can stop water from making its way past into the sheet rock. It will also stop the primer from turning a yellow color over time. And it’s easy to wipe clean once you have a coat of paint on it. I know it’s not fun painting ceilings, it can be a pain in the neck but let’s do the job right the first time and put a coat of paint on it.
Investor · Long Beach, CA · Member since 2012 · 313 posts · 190 votes
9y
The primer gets dirty faster. I don't prime anything unless its really bad, like kids got crayons on the walls or something. i just go straight to the paint.