What is proper order of rehab work?

What is proper order of rehab work?

Cibolo, TX · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 3 votes
Just purchased my first SFH rental off-market. Needs extensive work but don't know true extent. I do know it needs P/B foundation repair, new tile, and plumbing updates. My question: is there a general order of doing rehab? For e.g., should foundation work be done before addressing anything else? Or should electrical and plumbing be addressed first? TIA!!!
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Mt Holly, NJ · Member since 2017 · 13 posts · 13 votes
9y
exterior first(roofing, windows, entry and exit doors,siding, foundation), then fix electric and plumbing hvac. then hang int. doors drywall and spackle, then prime all walls, install floors, tile bath and kitchen, then cabinets, then countertop, then finish paint all walls, then finish electric and set toilets, faucets, hvac registers, etc, then hang trim and paint trim, then get paid for your hard work
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  • Professional · Milton, FL · Member since 2015 · 22 posts · 2 votes
    9y
    https://www.amazon.com/FLIP-Find-Sell-Houses-Profit/dp/0071486100 If your unsure and your paying for the work to be done this book will give you a good general idea on what order to do things to save money and excess appointments from the same trade. (Like plumbers, electricians , etc )
  • Mt Holly, NJ · Member since 2017 · 13 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    exterior first(roofing, windows, entry and exit doors,siding, foundation), then fix electric and plumbing hvac. then hang int. doors drywall and spackle, then prime all walls, install floors, tile bath and kitchen, then cabinets, then countertop, then finish paint all walls, then finish electric and set toilets, faucets, hvac registers, etc, then hang trim and paint trim, then get paid for your hard work
  • Investor · Hyattsville, MD · Member since 2012 · 822 posts · 441 votes
    9y

    You kind of jumped the gun with the purchase in evaluating the entire picture prior to purchase, but it is what is right?:) Its generally a good idea to know the condition of a property or level of expected repairs so you can anticipate those repairs and build them into your bid for the property. I typically build in an inspection contingency into my offers (yes this reduces my competitiveness of my offers, but its also a safety net to protect my bottom line). I make a bid with a 10 day inspection contingency.  If accepted, I have my inspector inspect the property and provide me a report on the state of all systems and structural. then I use this report to build my scope of work and know what repairs need to be made. then I type out this list and solicit bids from 2-3 contractors/GCs/ handymen depending on the nature of the rehab. I do walkthroughs ASAP before end of 10 day period and try to get their quotes for the work needed. This allows me to make a full decision knowing the nature of the repairs, cost of repairs and have the ability to back out of my offer if there is a red flag or major foundation problem that increases my repair costs dramatically higher than I anticipated. Then I could review the order of the work they recommend with them with the contractor I choose. They usually know the order that is preferable based on the work you have planned. I would start by getting a foundation guy there to give you an estimate for his repairs. A regular GC might be able to assist with the remainder or all of the work to include foundation. Definitely get multiple bids both for cost comparison and rehab approach comparison. Everyone has a unique perspective on how to tackle an issue. good luck!

  • Investor · Chandler, AZ · Member since 2015 · 409 posts · 214 votes
    9y

    There is so much info out there on what to do in the order of doing it by someone

    foundation is always the first thing, your house is built on it

    get together with a friend of a friend that knows a contractor in your area and have them come over and give you a idea of what to do and where to start

    I take it you are going to learn some stuff by doing? That is so cool!! good for you, get in there and learn

    enjoy

  • Cibolo, TX · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    9y
    Thank you all for the kind words and constructive input!!!
  • Property Manager · Boston, MA · Member since 2014 · 194 posts · 73 votes
    9y

    what Kevin branin said sounds about right. Send pics

  • Rental Property Investor · Western Slope CO · Member since 2016 · 58 posts · 24 votes
    9y

    I am in your same boat- we bought a house on auction.com without knowing the full extent of what we were getting into. We closed yesterday- the house is 90 miles from where we live (Aspen-so buying closer is not an option yet.) I went there to have the water turned back on and started getting caught up in what the preferred order of operations should be. I finally stopped wasting time and just started cleaning. As I'm moving through the house cleaning everything, I'm better able to notice what needs to be removed/replaced, and every other little defect. I can't do much until my sons arrive in a couple of weeks to do the big renovations but arbitration least I didn't get stalled due to being overwhelmed. Good luck and we will both learn BIG lessons with our first projects and do better the next time! 

  • Real Estate Agent/Investor · Peoria, AZ · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Orlando Kell @Brenda B.

    I have a PDF showing the general steps/order of a rehab. PM me if you want a copy.

  • Investor · Canton-Akron, OH · Member since 2012 · 917 posts · 477 votes
    9y

    Heres what we use, thanks to JScott. 

    For more details buy the Book on Flipping Houses,  for a few bucks. 

    Good luck on your venture.  

    http://www.123flip.com/education/rehab-order-of-op...

  • Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 688 votes
    9y
    Exterior structural, structural, functional, cosmetic. ( some variations, but generally true)
  • Contractor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Simple rule of thumb is demo, then most inner to most outer, meaning: studs, plumbing/electrical, drywall, etc going to outside, then/together with top to bottom.
  • Investor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 885 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Orlando Kell:

    Just purchased my first SFH rental off-market. Needs extensive work but don't know true extent. I do know it needs P/B foundation repair, new tile, and plumbing updates. My question: is there a general order of doing rehab? For e.g., should foundation work be done before addressing anything else? Or should electrical and plumbing be addressed first? TIA!!!

     You have to do the foundation first. The whole structure shifts during the process affecting walls and ceilings and roof. Once the foundation is stabilized, make sure it is weather tight. If you are moving Kitchen sinks plan where the wiring and plumbing will be. Make sure you leave room for an oversized refrigerator space and a dishwasher. Plan out the kitchen space to the INCH. I outline on the floor in tape where things are going. Then carry on. Plumbing, Electrical, HVAC. After that, you can do the walls and such. I usually do the floors after I've painted the walls. Hang your new fixtures and replace the knobs and pulls. It's not so hard. Just allow plenty of time and move quickly or you will lose money. Fix & Flips is about getting done and sold fast.

  • Real Estate Investor · Palm Beach County, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Bob Okenwa:

    @Orlando Kell @Brenda B.

    I have a PDF showing the general steps/order of a rehab. PM me if you want a copy.

     Hey Bob could you shoot that PDF over to me? Thanks.

  • Real Estate Agent/Investor · Peoria, AZ · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Brian Garrett

    No prob. Sent you a colleague request.

  • Cibolo, TX · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    9y
    Bob Okenwa id greatly appreciate that PDF!! TIA!!
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor · Peoria, AZ · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Orlando Kell

    I'll get it to you. Sent you a request.

  • Investor · Ellinwood, KS · Member since 2017 · 15 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    @Orlando Kell thank you for asking this question. Everyone's insight is much appreciated. 

    I cleared out our first house from the previous renters items. 

    Made a checklist of all the work to be done and have been getting bids. Interesting that some handymen avoid paint while others avoid exterior doors. 

    Now I will revisit the list to prioritize order of completion after I read these links. 

    @Bob Okenwa

    Could you post it in BP files? I've been devouring the wisdom shared over there. 

  • Cibolo, TX · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    9y
    Dell Schlabach what a great link thanks so much!
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor · Peoria, AZ · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    @Amber Rugan

    I've added it to the BP File list. It's named House Flip Steps.

  • Cibolo, TX · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    9y
    Brenda B. You are so right! I did a cash purchase as I'm hoping to do a BRRRR on it so fortunately I don't have the stress of an impending flip (and high interest HM loan) on the line. Gotta start somewhere right? Good luck to you!
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    Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 694 votes
    9y

    @Orlando Kell 

    Will you be doing the work yourself, acting as GC, or having a GC do it for you?  

  • Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2010 · 739 posts · 372 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Kevin Branin:
    exterior first(roofing, windows, entry and exit doors,siding, foundation), then fix electric and plumbing hvac. then hang int. doors drywall and spackle, then prime all walls, install floors, tile bath and kitchen, then cabinets, then countertop, then finish paint all walls, then finish electric and set toilets, faucets, hvac registers, etc, then hang trim and paint trim, then get paid for your hard work

     Install floors before painting walls?

  • Cibolo, TX · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    9y
    Kuba F. I'll be contracting all the work out myself
  • Alexandria, VA · Member since 2016 · 111 posts · 164 votes
    9y
    I recommend J. Scott's The Book on Flipping Houses.
  • Investor · Santa Barbara, CA · Member since 2016 · 75 posts · 35 votes
    9y

    the book on Flipping Houses by J Scott and published by Bigger Pockets is an EXCELLENT resource! 

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