🔍 What Are You Seeing in the Note Space Right Now? (Seasoned Performing Notes, 1st P

🔍 What Are You Seeing in the Note Space Right Now? (Seasoned Performing Notes, 1st P

Member since 2018 · 39 posts · 6 votes

Hey everyone,

I’ve been exploring more deals in the performing note space lately—specifically 1st position residential notes (1–4 units) that have been seasoned for at least a year. I'm noticing some interesting shifts in pricing, seller expectations, and even how people are structuring deals.

Curious to hear from others:

  • What trends are you seeing in note pricing and demand lately?

  • Are you noticing more sellers exiting notes early?

  • How do you typically underwrite risk when evaluating seasoned notes?

  • Any red flags you’ve learned to spot quicker now compared to when you first started?

Would love to exchange insights with other note investors—whether you’re buying, selling, or brokering. Let’s help each other level up in this space.

Looking forward to your thoughts!

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  • Dan DeppenBusiness Member
    Erie, CO · Member since 2017 · 274 posts · 267 votes
    1y

    I haven't really observed any significant shifts. There is still tons of supply out there, at least for performing. 

    Pricing depends on who the seller is and why they're selling, still a lot of non-uniform pricing.

    My underwriting model for existing notes is mostly based on pay history and equity, although there are obviously many other factors.

    Red flags are mostly with counterparties, I'm much better at identifying the serious buyers and sellers than I was a few years ago.

  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    1y

    Investors paying "too much" for "too little". The risk is too high for the anticipated ROI. Meanwhile I'll originate my own notes, invest in some selected REITS at 30% + discount from NAV, buy a few notes that are priced at what I believe to be a ‘proper" risk adjustedROI, and wait out a market that (I believe) has mis priced risk/return.

    Private Mortgage Financing Partners, LLC
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