Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
@Zhongyuan Luo Really appreciate that Zhongyuan — yes I'm familiar with both ZIMAS and the county GIS. The issue I keep hearing from developers is that those tools show the raw zoning data but don't actually tell you what you can build there in plain English — especially when you factor in overlays, FAR calculations, and state ADU laws all at once. As someone who's a realtor, architect, and contractor — is that a pain point you run into with clients?
Hi, each project is a bit different. From years of practice, there's really no reliable tool to consolidate everything and give us a clear answer as what can or cannot be built. Zimas only gives you zoning map, flood map, etc, but building height, setback, you need to find them from city/county's zoning ordinance. Let's say for a property, you want to build an ADU. You figured out the front setback is 20', side and rear are 5', 30' height limit, FAR 45%, and a 1,200 sqft ADU is allowed. Everything looks very promising until you do a survey, and found out the fire access is not wide enough (20' min), or your property doesn't have two means of access to freeway, so either you can't build an ADU if it's in high fire, or it needs to be capped at 800 sqft. I haven't mentioned other variables like zoning variance, etc. Simply put, without an accurate survey/site plan, information from Zimas/zoning ordinance/planner are really more of a guideline. You need to prove that those information are applicable for your property, and this is the hard part. A really useful tool would ideally generate an accurate property survey (which is impossible for now), not plat/plot map, and then analyze the property based on local zoning ordinance. Hope it helps.
I'm not a zoning expert myself. I build automation and research systems for real estate developers/agents, so zoning research comes up a lot as one of the messier things people deal with.
From the developers I've talked to, most start with ZIMAS, then either call a consultant for the tricky parcels or piece together info from a few different sources. The bigger pattern I keep seeing is people end up building their own little checklist or tracker over time because no single tool covers all of it. Same story with permit tracking, comps, all of it.
If you want to chat about how we automate research workflows like this on the back end, shoot me a message. Happy to share what I've seen work.
I'm not a zoning expert myself. I build automation and research systems for real estate developers/agents, so zoning research comes up a lot as one of the messier things people deal with.
From the developers I've talked to, most start with ZIMAS, then either call a consultant for the tricky parcels or piece together info from a few different sources. The bigger pattern I keep seeing is people end up building their own little checklist or tracker over time because no single tool covers all of it. Same story with permit tracking, comps, all of it.
If you want to chat about how we automate research workflows like this on the back end, shoot me a message. Happy to share what I've seen work.
local architect is your best source to know what each lot will have the highest and best use
@Pouyan Broukhim That’s really helpful — so even with ZIMAS available, most developers still end up needing an architect or consultant to interpret it properly? That gap is exactly what I’m focused on. Would love to hear more about your experience with this.
local architect is your best source to know what each lot will have the highest and best use
100% accurate.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
Hello Joseph, I'm a licensed realtor, architect, and contractor in CA. Are you talking about county or city?
Los Angeles City: https://zimas.lacity.org/
Los Angels County: https://rpgis.isd.lacounty.gov/Html5Viewer/index.html?viewer...
Let me know if it helps.
@Zhongyuan Luo Really appreciate that Zhongyuan — yes I'm familiar with both ZIMAS and the county GIS. The issue I keep hearing from developers is that those tools show the raw zoning data but don't actually tell you what you can build there in plain English — especially when you factor in overlays, FAR calculations, and state ADU laws all at once. As someone who's a realtor, architect, and contractor — is that a pain point you run into with clients?
@Zhongyuan Luo Really appreciate that Zhongyuan — yes I'm familiar with both ZIMAS and the county GIS. The issue I keep hearing from developers is that those tools show the raw zoning data but don't actually tell you what you can build there in plain English — especially when you factor in overlays, FAR calculations, and state ADU laws all at once. As someone who's a realtor, architect, and contractor — is that a pain point you run into with clients?
Hi, each project is a bit different. From years of practice, there's really no reliable tool to consolidate everything and give us a clear answer as what can or cannot be built. Zimas only gives you zoning map, flood map, etc, but building height, setback, you need to find them from city/county's zoning ordinance. Let's say for a property, you want to build an ADU. You figured out the front setback is 20', side and rear are 5', 30' height limit, FAR 45%, and a 1,200 sqft ADU is allowed. Everything looks very promising until you do a survey, and found out the fire access is not wide enough (20' min), or your property doesn't have two means of access to freeway, so either you can't build an ADU if it's in high fire, or it needs to be capped at 800 sqft. I haven't mentioned other variables like zoning variance, etc. Simply put, without an accurate survey/site plan, information from Zimas/zoning ordinance/planner are really more of a guideline. You need to prove that those information are applicable for your property, and this is the hard part. A really useful tool would ideally generate an accurate property survey (which is impossible for now), not plat/plot map, and then analyze the property based on local zoning ordinance. Hope it helps.
@Zhongyuan Luo Zhongyuan this is incredibly helpful — genuinely one of the most detailed responses I've gotten. You've basically described the exact problem I'm trying to solve. You're right that without a physical survey you can't get to 100% certainty — but right now most developers can't even get to a reliable 70% without spending hours piecing together ZIMAS, the zoning ordinance, ADU rules, fire access requirements, and overlay districts manually. The tool I'm building aims to consolidate all of that into one instant report — not to replace the survey, but to replace the 4 hours of research that happens before anyone decides whether a survey is worth ordering.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
This is the most useful breakdown in the thread. You're right that without a survey nobody gets to 100%, and the fire access / two-means-of-access point is exactly the kind of thing that quietly caps a lot at 800 sq ft or kills the ADU after someone already thinks they're clear.
I'm not trying to replace the survey. The gap I keep hearing about is the 4 hours before the survey, piecing together ZIMAS plus the zoning ordinance plus state ADU rules plus the overlay and hazard layers just to decide whether a parcel is even worth ordering a survey on.
I built a tool for City-of-LA addresses that pulls zoning plus the overlay and fire/flood/hillside layers and returns a cited verdict, and it flags "needs review" instead of faking a yes when an overlay is involved. Given your background you'd spot where it's wrong faster than anyone here. Would you be up for naming one LA parcel you already know the answer on? I'll run it and post the result so you can sanity-check it against your manual read. Genuinely want to know where it breaks.
Hello Joseph, I'm a licensed realtor, architect, and contractor in CA. Are you talking about county or city?
Los Angeles City: https://zimas.lacity.org/
Los Angels County: https://rpgis.isd.lacounty.gov/Html5Viewer/index.html?viewer...
Let me know if it helps.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
This is the most useful breakdown in the thread. You're right that without a survey nobody gets to 100%, and the fire access / two-means-of-access point is exactly the kind of thing that quietly caps a lot at 800 sq ft or kills the ADU after someone already thinks they're clear.
I'm not trying to replace the survey. The gap I keep hearing about is the 4 hours before the survey, piecing together ZIMAS plus the zoning ordinance plus state ADU rules plus the overlay and hazard layers just to decide whether a parcel is even worth ordering a survey on.
I built a tool for City-of-LA addresses that pulls zoning plus the overlay and fire/flood/hillside layers and returns a cited verdict, and it flags "needs review" instead of faking a yes when an overlay is involved. Given your background you'd spot where it's wrong faster than anyone here. Would you be up for naming one LA parcel you already know the answer on? I'll run it and post the result so you can sanity-check it against your manual read. Genuinely want to know where it breaks.
Hello Joseph, I'm a licensed realtor, architect, and contractor in CA. Are you talking about county or city?
Los Angeles City: https://zimas.lacity.org/
Los Angels County: https://rpgis.isd.lacounty.gov/Html5Viewer/index.html?viewer...
Let me know if it helps.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
This is the most useful breakdown in the thread. You're right that without a survey nobody gets to 100%, and the fire access / two-means-of-access point is exactly the kind of thing that quietly caps a lot at 800 sq ft or kills the ADU after someone already thinks they're clear.
I'm not trying to replace the survey. The gap I keep hearing about is the 4 hours before the survey, piecing together ZIMAS plus the zoning ordinance plus state ADU rules plus the overlay and hazard layers just to decide whether a parcel is even worth ordering a survey on.
I built a tool for City-of-LA addresses that pulls zoning plus the overlay and fire/flood/hillside layers and returns a cited verdict, and it flags "needs review" instead of faking a yes when an overlay is involved. Given your background you'd spot where it's wrong faster than anyone here. Would you be up for naming one LA parcel you already know the answer on? I'll run it and post the result so you can sanity-check it against your manual read. Genuinely want to know where it breaks.
Hello Joseph, I'm a licensed realtor, architect, and contractor in CA. Are you talking about county or city?
Los Angeles City: https://zimas.lacity.org/
Los Angels County: https://rpgis.isd.lacounty.gov/Html5Viewer/index.html?viewer...
Let me know if it helps.
Jay, appreciate you raising that, it's a good gut-check.
Honest answer: no, it doesn't look at lot-of-record creation date today. It reads City of LA zoning, the overlay layers, and the fire/flood/hillside hazard layers, then returns a cited verdict on what the zoning would allow. A pre-1920 antiquated lot that's legal but effectively unbuildable is exactly the kind of thing it wouldn't catch on its own, so that's a case where it should be returning "needs review" rather than a confident yes. I'd rather it flag the gap than hand someone a green light it can't stand behind.
That said, the antiquated-subdivision angle is real and I haven't seen any of these tools handle it. How often does it actually bite in practice for you, and is it usually the pre-merger substandard lots or something else? Trying to figure out whether it's common enough in LA to be worth building a real check for.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
This is the most useful breakdown in the thread. You're right that without a survey nobody gets to 100%, and the fire access / two-means-of-access point is exactly the kind of thing that quietly caps a lot at 800 sq ft or kills the ADU after someone already thinks they're clear.
I'm not trying to replace the survey. The gap I keep hearing about is the 4 hours before the survey, piecing together ZIMAS plus the zoning ordinance plus state ADU rules plus the overlay and hazard layers just to decide whether a parcel is even worth ordering a survey on.
I built a tool for City-of-LA addresses that pulls zoning plus the overlay and fire/flood/hillside layers and returns a cited verdict, and it flags "needs review" instead of faking a yes when an overlay is involved. Given your background you'd spot where it's wrong faster than anyone here. Would you be up for naming one LA parcel you already know the answer on? I'll run it and post the result so you can sanity-check it against your manual read. Genuinely want to know where it breaks.
Hello Joseph, I'm a licensed realtor, architect, and contractor in CA. Are you talking about county or city?
Los Angeles City: https://zimas.lacity.org/
Los Angels County: https://rpgis.isd.lacounty.gov/Html5Viewer/index.html?viewer...
Let me know if it helps.
Jay, appreciate you raising that, it's a good gut-check.
Honest answer: no, it doesn't look at lot-of-record creation date today. It reads City of LA zoning, the overlay layers, and the fire/flood/hillside hazard layers, then returns a cited verdict on what the zoning would allow. A pre-1920 antiquated lot that's legal but effectively unbuildable is exactly the kind of thing it wouldn't catch on its own, so that's a case where it should be returning "needs review" rather than a confident yes. I'd rather it flag the gap than hand someone a green light it can't stand behind.
That said, the antiquated-subdivision angle is real and I haven't seen any of these tools handle it. How often does it actually bite in practice for you, and is it usually the pre-merger substandard lots or something else? Trying to figure out whether it's common enough in LA to be worth building a real check for.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
This is the most useful breakdown in the thread. You're right that without a survey nobody gets to 100%, and the fire access / two-means-of-access point is exactly the kind of thing that quietly caps a lot at 800 sq ft or kills the ADU after someone already thinks they're clear.
I'm not trying to replace the survey. The gap I keep hearing about is the 4 hours before the survey, piecing together ZIMAS plus the zoning ordinance plus state ADU rules plus the overlay and hazard layers just to decide whether a parcel is even worth ordering a survey on.
I built a tool for City-of-LA addresses that pulls zoning plus the overlay and fire/flood/hillside layers and returns a cited verdict, and it flags "needs review" instead of faking a yes when an overlay is involved. Given your background you'd spot where it's wrong faster than anyone here. Would you be up for naming one LA parcel you already know the answer on? I'll run it and post the result so you can sanity-check it against your manual read. Genuinely want to know where it breaks.
Hello Joseph, I'm a licensed realtor, architect, and contractor in CA. Are you talking about county or city?
Los Angeles City: https://zimas.lacity.org/
Los Angels County: https://rpgis.isd.lacounty.gov/Html5Viewer/index.html?viewer...
Let me know if it helps.
Jay, appreciate you raising that, it's a good gut-check.
Honest answer: no, it doesn't look at lot-of-record creation date today. It reads City of LA zoning, the overlay layers, and the fire/flood/hillside hazard layers, then returns a cited verdict on what the zoning would allow. A pre-1920 antiquated lot that's legal but effectively unbuildable is exactly the kind of thing it wouldn't catch on its own, so that's a case where it should be returning "needs review" rather than a confident yes. I'd rather it flag the gap than hand someone a green light it can't stand behind.
That said, the antiquated-subdivision angle is real and I haven't seen any of these tools handle it. How often does it actually bite in practice for you, and is it usually the pre-merger substandard lots or something else? Trying to figure out whether it's common enough in LA to be worth building a real check for.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
This is the most useful breakdown in the thread. You're right that without a survey nobody gets to 100%, and the fire access / two-means-of-access point is exactly the kind of thing that quietly caps a lot at 800 sq ft or kills the ADU after someone already thinks they're clear.
I'm not trying to replace the survey. The gap I keep hearing about is the 4 hours before the survey, piecing together ZIMAS plus the zoning ordinance plus state ADU rules plus the overlay and hazard layers just to decide whether a parcel is even worth ordering a survey on.
I built a tool for City-of-LA addresses that pulls zoning plus the overlay and fire/flood/hillside layers and returns a cited verdict, and it flags "needs review" instead of faking a yes when an overlay is involved. Given your background you'd spot where it's wrong faster than anyone here. Would you be up for naming one LA parcel you already know the answer on? I'll run it and post the result so you can sanity-check it against your manual read. Genuinely want to know where it breaks.
Hello Joseph, I'm a licensed realtor, architect, and contractor in CA. Are you talking about county or city?
Los Angeles City: https://zimas.lacity.org/
Los Angels County: https://rpgis.isd.lacounty.gov/Html5Viewer/index.html?viewer...
Let me know if it helps.
Jay, appreciate you raising that, it's a good gut-check.
Honest answer: no, it doesn't look at lot-of-record creation date today. It reads City of LA zoning, the overlay layers, and the fire/flood/hillside hazard layers, then returns a cited verdict on what the zoning would allow. A pre-1920 antiquated lot that's legal but effectively unbuildable is exactly the kind of thing it wouldn't catch on its own, so that's a case where it should be returning "needs review" rather than a confident yes. I'd rather it flag the gap than hand someone a green light it can't stand behind.
That said, the antiquated-subdivision angle is real and I haven't seen any of these tools handle it. How often does it actually bite in practice for you, and is it usually the pre-merger substandard lots or something else? Trying to figure out whether it's common enough in LA to be worth building a real check for.
I usually start with ZIMAS to check zoning, overlays, FAR, setbacks, and ADU potential. From there, I verify any major restrictions that could impact development.
Happy to chat more here in LA
I usually start with ZIMAS to check zoning, overlays, FAR, setbacks, and ADU potential. From there, I verify any major restrictions that could impact development.
Happy to chat more here in LA
That's simpler than I expected, thanks Jay. Pull the deed, read the legal description, and lean on the title company when it's thin. Easy enough to actually do.
For the tool, that means antiquated-lot status has to be a "needs review" flag, not something I pretend to confirm from zoning data, since the answer's in the recorded plat, not the assessor roll. If I can find a clean LA County legal-lot-of-record dataset I'll try to encode it properly. Until then I'd rather flag the gap than hand someone a false yes. Appreciate you taking the time on this one.
Question for LA developers and investors — when you’re evaluating a new parcel, how do you currently figure out the zoning? Do you use ZIMAS, hire a consultant, call the city planning department? Trying to understand how people handle this workflow. Genuinely curious.
Honest answer: no, it doesn't check lot creation date today. If a parcel has ambiguous lot of record status we'd rather flag it "needs review" than fake a confident yes, but we don't currently ingest anything that would catch an antiquated 1920s paper subdivision on its own. You found a real gap.
The saving grace for my main user (homeowner with an existing house adding an ADU) is that a developed, permitted parcel has usually already cleared the legal lot question. Where your point really bites is vacant lots and recent splits, which is exactly the investor use case in this thread.
Question back at you since you clearly deal with this a lot: when you vet one, do you go straight to the original recorded tract map, or do you pull certificate of compliance history first? And do you know if LA County keeps any queryable dataset of legal lot determinations? If that exists I can actually encode this instead of just flagging it.