Feedback on reaching out to lenders for BRRRR method rentals

Feedback on reaching out to lenders for BRRRR method rentals

New to Real Estate · MN · Member since 2021 · 4 posts · 2 votes

Hey there!, We are trying out the BRRRR process and are having a hard time to get lenders to work with us. Following is a draft of an email I would like to use to reach out to a few others – perhaps I could get some feedback in posting it here. Emailing works best for me as I am typically tied up between two jobs. Additionally, if anyone has any recommendations for lenders I could try to reach out to, that would be Awesome.

“Hello,

My family and I are in the process of forming a rental real estate business. We are searching for a lender who will fit our proposed method of BRRRR (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat). Each property we purchase, we want to structure it under it's own LLC. Do you provide lending for this type of structure?

A little overview of where we are at currently. We have two properties available, both of which are currently financed. My partner and I own one, as well as his mother. We currently have enough available cash to pay off one of the two to set up as our first rental.

Our properties:

(I have listed what the two properties are, as well as some financial information in this section.)

Our goal is to ultimately title the properties under separate LLCs.

Additional questions that we have:

  1. Do you provide financing options for an LLC structure?
    1. What is the typical seasoning period for properties and financing?
  2. If we paid off one of the two properties today, how soon could we refinance it to move onto the next?
  3. What is the max LTV offered?
  4. Does cash flow perspective dictate LTV percentage?
  5. Is there a penalty for early loan payoff?

We look forward to working with you!

Thank you”

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Professional · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2011 · 37 posts · 52 votes
5y

@Ashley Lochli Hey Ashley, frankly I think you're probably scaring them off with the words "My family and I are in the process of forming a rental real estate business." You're already in the rental real estate business. Delete those words and the rest of the email is great. My company originates DSCR (debt service coverage ratio) loans to investors who are exactly in your position. They're designed for people buying properties in LLCs and building their rental portfolios. Seasoning is 3 mos. You can refinance a free & clear property anytime and you'll still be eligible for cash out. Max LTV is 80% technically, but most borrowers land in the 70-75% range after they see how long of a rate they can get. Cash flow from the property does impact the max loan proceeds, as the loan is designed to have the payment made from the rent coming from the property. There are pre-payment penalties (5,4,3,2,1 typically) so don't plan to use this product for a short term investment. Dominion Financial, 30yr fixed rate & term, rates in the 4s.

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  • Professional · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2011 · 37 posts · 52 votes
    5y

    @Ashley Lochli Hey Ashley, frankly I think you're probably scaring them off with the words "My family and I are in the process of forming a rental real estate business." You're already in the rental real estate business. Delete those words and the rest of the email is great. My company originates DSCR (debt service coverage ratio) loans to investors who are exactly in your position. They're designed for people buying properties in LLCs and building their rental portfolios. Seasoning is 3 mos. You can refinance a free & clear property anytime and you'll still be eligible for cash out. Max LTV is 80% technically, but most borrowers land in the 70-75% range after they see how long of a rate they can get. Cash flow from the property does impact the max loan proceeds, as the loan is designed to have the payment made from the rent coming from the property. There are pre-payment penalties (5,4,3,2,1 typically) so don't plan to use this product for a short term investment. Dominion Financial, 30yr fixed rate & term, rates in the 4s.

  • Investor · Malakoff, TX · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    You need to know specifically why lenders won't give you loans and address that. They aren't distressed property sellers so you aren't going to convince them to lend to you because of a cleverly worded yellow letter. 

  • New to Real Estate · MN · Member since 2021 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    5y

    @Jack BeVier Thank you for your response, it is very insightful. 

    @Eric James Thank you for your response as well.

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    Lender · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    5y

    @Ashley Lochli sometimes it's hard to know which lenders are good until you're fully involved with them and then it might be too late to make a change.  Some of your questions are good but I did write an entire post on this subject for Bigger Pockets that you can find HERE.  Feel free to ask anything additional if you need.  Thanks!

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