The Power of Bigger Pockets

The Power of Bigger Pockets

Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes

Part 1

Hey BP Community,

I wanted to take some time and share this project that literally would not have happened without Bigger Pockets.  Thank you again @Joshua D. for taking the risk to start this. Many of you have shared your stories and it's so encouraging, so keep it up!

What we were (and are) looking for

Flips and Buy & Holds. This was prior to me getting my RE license, and I connected with an investor/agent here on BP, shout out to @Erin Legler.  She helped us find this deal (as well as several others).

The Deal

We walked into this flea ridden mess of a house, and smelled the potential immediately.  It was listed at $87.5k , and there were comps in the neighborhood just under $200k. The listing had it as a 2/2 with 1300 SQ FT, but in reality, it was a 3/2, with a potential for a 4th bedroom with closer to 1500 SQ FT.  After some quick math, we knew this was a great deal and proceeded to put in a cash offer.  Erin connected with the listing agent and found out there were multiple offers the first day, so we decided to come in at $5k over asking at $92.5K.

*Key Learning Most BP'ers, and especially those in the Orlando & Central Florida area would agree that good deals are getting pretty scarce on the MLS. Of the three deals I've closed off the MLS to date, we have come in at or over asking price. It’s easy to get caught in up in getting an “amazing deal” on the front end, but with the amount of competition there is, it’s been well worth it to come in higher. Knowing my numbers: comps and rehab/holding costs has allowed me to do this with confidence.*

Acceptance to Close

Needless to say, they accepted our offer and we were thrilled. I've connected with several great hard money lenders, both through BP and my local REIA, but I wanted to see if I could raise private money for this purchase. As @Brandon Turner has said, REI is "sexy" and people are interested so I put together this presentation:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/517/topics/176471-seeking-flip-funding-in-orlando-50-ltv-and-138-roi

In addition to the BP community, I shared it with family, friends and local investors that had expressed interest in what I was doing. I got some really great feedback about the presentation and the deal, and received a lot of interest and queries. 

I was hoping this would be a stress free transaction, but as with so many deals, it came right down to the wire.

A private investor from BP reached out to me a few days before close, and expressed interest. We were supposed to close on a Friday, and after he did some due diligence, committed to the deal on Thursday afternoon. He was planning to lend out of his IRA and needed a notarized mortgage and promissory note by the end of the day in order to send wire instructions to his IRA trustee. I scrambled to put these together, call a notary friend and got them signed, notarized, scanned and sent back to him within a couple hours. We were both doubtful that all the pieces would fall into place with the looming deadline, but somehow they did! The wire instructions were sent Friday morning, but the money didn't make it in that day, so we spent a weekend wondering if it would close… Monday morning came, the money was there, and the deal closed!

... Stay tuned for part 2 tomorrow

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Greensboro, NC · Member since 2014 · 212 posts · 143 votes
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Originally posted by @Andrew Davis:

@Patrick Jacques

 what must be?

 Patrick, when you say it must be nice, we assume you mean that it must be nice for Andrew to see all of his hard work come together. It must be nice to see untold hundreds of hours up late, up early, researching his market, building his network, sweating out the details and generally doing the things that others were not willing to do...finally come together in this end product.  So yes, this is very nice and gratifying, but it definitely wasn't as easy as "pick a house off the mls and flip it."  Congrats to Andrew, your lender and realtor.  Here's to a quick sale!  

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  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2014 · 132 posts · 24 votes
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    @Andrew Davis

     I've followed you from pretty much when you began your journey here on BP.  Your passion and dealings in RE have always been very professional and courteous and these are such big ingredients in becoming successful in this business.

    Great presentation and process in achieving your flip.  Congrats and hoping to follow your journey towards making it a success.

    @Joshua D.

     without being imposing, I think this thread could fit in very well as a FEATURED thread, with the purpose of exposing it to newer members.  It has many examples:

    - people new to this business can compete

    - how presenting the RIGHT WAY can acheive results

    - no/little money is required if you have done your work and can confidently present your project with numbers and exit strategy

    - how BP is such a great tool in making contacts and getting deals done. @Erin Legler

     actually found the deal and I'm assuming that Andrew made that contact here.

    Etc.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2010 · 377 posts · 314 votes
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    This is going to sound funny, given your comment about fleas & smells, but the the colors look fairly close to currently fashionable shades. Had it been repainted for sale, or did the previous owner just happen to have good taste but too overwhelmed by too many animals (or was it a bad renter)?

  • Real Estate Agent · Orlando, FL · Member since 2014 · 231 posts · 130 votes
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    @Andrew Davis Thank you for the kind words!  You and your wife were so lovely to work with.  So nice to work with an investor that understands the potential with properties and isn't afraid to jump a fence or two.  

    @Sam Alpha Yes Sam, Andrew had contacted me through Biggerpockets.  Once contacted we hit the ground running.  We looked at a lot of properties.  I laugh because one property we looked at wreaked of cat spray and feces.  Andrew and I looked at each other and said "this place smells like money"!

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Ryan Billingsley thanks man!  I've been very encouraged by your journey as well, keep it up!

  • Investor/Realtor · Wentzville, MO · Member since 2014 · 846 posts · 431 votes
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    @Andrew Davis

    Sharing our success stories is what gives hope and inspiration to others! I hope to share more soon and I look forward to reading yours as well!

  • Investor · Anaheim, CA · Member since 2015 · 444 posts · 45 votes
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    Congratulations @Andrew Davis!  And Thanks for taking us all for the ride!  We feel a part of this and can't wait to have our own stories to share - soon!  All the Best to All! :)

  • Grants Pass, OR · Member since 2014 · 12 posts · 1 vote
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    Nice!  I love it.  keep up the good work.  Deborah

  • Greensboro, NC · Member since 2014 · 212 posts · 143 votes
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    Rock on @Andrew Davis! Just saw your story made the Success Spotlight!

  • Realtor · NW Suburbs of Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 156 posts · 62 votes
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    Great job @Andrew Davis! Thanks for sharing! :)

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Ratha Mccleary thank you!

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    Thanks @Jasmine S. !  I'm amazed at how much there is here and still feel like I'm completely under-utilizing this awesome platform.

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    Thanks @Mike Rodriguez , looking forward to connecting with you tomorrow!

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @StacyA McBain thank you so much!  I'm glad you're enjoying the narrative:)  I posted part 2 yesterday, should be on page 2 of this thread.

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    Hey @Pamela Jack thank you so much.  I actually hired a designer from a website called People Per Hour (I have no affiliation with them).  You can also use odesk , fiverr, designcrowd.  There are lots of sites out there, I think I paid $30.

    If you want to do it yourself, I designed another one on Canva fairly quickly... and it's free.

    *I have absolutely no affiliation with any of these sites/companies*

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Curtis Yoder Yes indeed, the waters nice!  Look forward to connecting with you at some point.

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Luke Miller thanks so much, you are very kind.  Please do borrow the lay out and reach out anytime with questions.

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    Thanks @Kadian F. !  I look forward to connecting with you at some point, will you be at the CFRI general meeting next week?

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Sam Alpha thanks man!  You have always been so encouraging, and I so appreciate your kind words.  To your point:

    I did meet @Erin Legler here on BP.  I also read @J Scott 's books on flipping houses and estimating rehab costs, and @Brandon Turner's book on investing with low/no money down was part of what inspired me to seek out a private investor and to partner with a contractor (my own lack of funds may have also played a minor role!)  I was and am regularly encouraged and motivated by the podcasts, and am always getting new ideas from them.

    I reached out to @Matt Faircloth after listening to he and his wife's podcast, and he was kind enough to spend time with me on the phone and took time to evaluate my goals and give me some great feedback about them.

    I connected with @Chris L. through BP, who is awesome guy and has been generous with his time, advice and encouragement.

    @Justin Stamper has connected me with some great people through his networking group, and I use his investor-friendly title company *no affiliation, they just do a great job*

    I could go on and on, but you get the idea...

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    Hey @Deanna O. I'm not exactly sure what the situation was.  I've tried to piece it together from my conversations with the neighbors, but I think any thing "fashionable" in that house was a pure accident.  @Erin Legler wouldn't you agree?:)

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Account Closed thank you!  I look forward to reading your success story, make sure you let me know when you post it so I don't miss it:)

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Deborah Vierra thank you!  I'm actually from Portland and used to work down in Grants Pass, Medford, Roseburg... all over Oregon really.  I miss it!

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Derek B. really?!  I didn't even know there was a success spotlight, where would one find this??

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    Thanks @Shelly F.!

  • Greensboro, NC · Member since 2014 · 212 posts · 143 votes
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    @Andrew Davis  i get it in an email.  Here's the iphone screenshot.

  • Investor · Asheville, NC · Member since 2011 · 833 posts · 499 votes
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    @Derek B. cool!  I guess I should check my e-mail.

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