First Buy & Hold using BRRR Strategy in DFW!

First Buy & Hold using BRRR Strategy in DFW!

Stephen QuesinberryBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Cumming, GA · Member since 2016 · 226 posts · 157 votes

Hi Everyone! Excited to share my success story and lessons learned during my first BRRR and second investment property. Hopefully, everyone can learn from it!

Here are some lessons learned during my first SFH BRRR in Dallas-Fort Worth.

The Deal:

Purchase Price: $102,000

ARV: $150,000

Rehab: $20,000

Total Cash out of Pocket: ~$25,700

Estimated Cash on Cash Return: ~16%

PTIT Cash Flow: $500

Monthly Cash Flow: $339

(Vacancy 5%, Repairs 6%)

Lessons Learned:

  • It's all about the deal- I put in so much work to "prepare" myself for the purchasing of the property. I wanted to make sure I had everything lined up perfectly. Team built, property management paperwork etc. I spent a couple of months getting ready to be a real estate investor. Then, I began searching for the deal and it took much longer than anticipated. My advice is to not worry about everything else-just go after the deal. Identify the critiical items necessary to purchase the deal. After you secure the deal, figure out the next step. Take one thing at a time and the very first is finding a deal.
  • Cast a WIDE net. Tell everyone you're looking for a property, wholesalers, REI contacts, agents. Don't just depend on a couple of sources.
  • Had to put down $5K non-refundable deposit to secure the property to closing with hard money. Be prepared to HUSTLE. Had to make a quick decision and get the money quickly to get the property. It all comes down to being consistent about analyzing deals, then once you get the hang of it, you will be able to quickly analyze and make a decision.
  • After closing on the property with hard money, I had two weeks before closing. It took a significant amount of time to get contractors out there to make a bid. Do this as quickly as possible. Also, would recommend scheduling the contractor to walk through it with you. Each contractor had many questions as to what I wanted to do with the property and therefore created unnecessary back and forth communication. After closing hard money the two critical pieces were securing a rehab bid and getting insurance.
  • Closing with hard money happened at 75% ARV with Hard money. Refinancing on the back end would be 75% as well. Cash out of pocket at closing was 11,000. Will incur closing costs on the back end because of hard money financing at 75 rather than 70%.
  • Rehab:
    • Multiple Bids allowed me to compare and contrast what exactly needed to be done to the house and gave me reassurance that pricing was good. Especially for a new investor this is really beneficial.
    • Additional Repairs add up quick over time. Stick with the rehab plan and don't upgrade-It's just a rental! I upgraded on several features I should not have: A/C, painted the garage, textured ceilings. These upgrades will help if I ever need to sell the house, but significantly lowered my CoC return.
    • I probably could have stretched the water heater and A/C a couple of years, but wanted to include it with the rehab and BRRR. Figured it would cost me more down the line. No way of really telling if that was the right decision or not.
    • Permits. Part of my up front due diligence that I did not do well was ask the city if permits had been completed. Of course, luck would have it-there were no permits. I'm not sure what I'd have done if I found that out up front. I think I'd have still bought the property, just added the permits into my budget. My contractor was able to get a mechanical, plumbing, electrical, and remodeling for around $2K. This cost along with additional repairs really hurt the expected cash flow.
  • Property Management
    • Managing it myself
    • Required Rental Insurance
    • Sites that brought me leads:
      • Zillow Rental Manager (Zillow, HotPads, Trulia)
      • Cozy (Doorsteps, Realtor.com, Cozy)
      • Zumper (Realtor.com, Walk Score, Padmapper)
    • Do no use Rentals.com
      • I paid $50 for a month and got zero leads.
    • Phone Screen is important, do not show the house to anyone you do not think would make a good tenant.
    • Pricing made a huge difference when renting out my property, if you are not getting enough leads/interest, lower the price to meet the demand.
      • I originally posted for $1375 and had a few showings then shifted to $1345 and my phone was ringing of the hook.
  • Refinancing
    • Currently, refinancing out of hard money 2 months afterwards.
    • You can start the refinancing process when complete with the rehab and it will take 30 days from there, unfortunately. I did not project this well on my analysis-was unsure as to the timing/process of it all.

While the Cash flow did not pan out as well as I had projected, I took action and now have learned ALOT more than continuing to "educate" myself. There's probably more, but that's all I came up with for now, hope it helps! 

Excited for the next opportunity! 

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Investor · Chesapeake, VA · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 10 votes
9y

Thanks for sharing!

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  • Realtor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2016 · 39 posts · 10 votes
    9y
    This is great detail, thanks!
  • New Haven, CT · Member since 2016 · 90 posts · 99 votes
    9y

    @Luis Pere

    PITI (Principle, Interest, Taxes, Insurance). Could be wrong, but I think he was going for that.

    Matt

  • Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2016 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Thanks, @Matthew A.

    Makes sense. ; ) Much appreciated!

  • DFW, TX · Member since 2016 · 1 post · 0 votes
    9y
    Awesome job, Stephen!
  • Rental Property Investor · Arlington, TX · Member since 2012 · 788 posts · 640 votes
    9y

    @Stephen Quesinberry

    I'll try this again since original thread was removed for some reason.  What term/rates are you getting on Landlord loans?

  • Bristol, United Kingdom · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    thanks for sharing @Stephen Quesinberry . I am currently in the process of educating my self in the real estate investor mindset by reading and listing/watching the podcast and webinars. 

    How long did it take you from the moment you start getting involved/educated into real estate and developed your business plan/criteria   to when you actively started looking for deals to place an offer?

    What did your finance strategy consist of  Hardmoney, loans savings etc?

    Many thanks. 

    Keep the good work

  • Pickerington, OH · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 5 votes
    9y
    Thanks for sharing Stephen.
  • Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Great information - thank you!!

  • Clinton, CT · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    Hi Stephen @Stephen Quesinberry 

    really great write up of the process you took - as i'm just starting out, it gives me a good reference point.

    Thanks

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2014 · 112 posts · 83 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Stephen Quesinberry:

    @Alex Correa; in this particular situation it didn't make a difference. The hard money loan was 75% LTV as was the refinance. If the hard money was 70% LTV then it 'd be easier to "hide" it on the back end.

     If it appraises for more than expected for the conventional loan you may still be able to hide some of the points. 

  • Fairview, NJ · Member since 2016 · 1 post · 0 votes
    9y
    Really awesome information! Thank you for this post.
  • Keller, TX · Member since 2015 · 28 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    Thanks for sharing Stephen well put together! I guess we don't have to meet up anymore since I got most of the details from here!

  • Hollywood, FL · Member since 2016 · 21 posts · 8 votes
    9y

    @Stephen Quesinberry great write up it was very encouraging to me as a new investor working to clearly understand the business and find my first few deals.

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    Real Estate Agent · Cumming, GA · Member since 2016 · 226 posts · 157 votes
    9y

    @Trevor F. not sure, what you mean by finance strategy? In the BRRR, I bought using hard money and am currently in the process of refinancing into conventional loan.

    I started looking for deals a couple of months after educating myself on nights and weekends. 

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    Real Estate Agent · Cumming, GA · Member since 2016 · 226 posts · 157 votes
    9y

    @Garth Kukla Great advice, thank you!

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    Real Estate Agent · Cumming, GA · Member since 2016 · 226 posts · 157 votes
    9y

    @Andrew Barber, I didn't get bids before the offer. I estimated beforehand and then got 3 bids after I got the property under contract. 

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    Real Estate Agent · Cumming, GA · Member since 2016 · 226 posts · 157 votes
    9y

    @Chris Low @Nate Barbee @Matthew Hipp @Ryan Ogilvie

    Seasoning of Hard Money into Refinance

    I asked my lender today. Here is the scoop. She is a mortgage broker and deals only with investment lenders. There are no regulations set by Fannie Mae on seasoning of loans and it's been that way for years. With that said, it's all about finding a lender that is willing to do it. Most banks have it as an added requirement and it seems to have become an accepted industry practice. Ask around until you get the answer you want!!!

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  • Investor · Midland, TX · Member since 2015 · 45 posts · 18 votes
    9y

    @Stephen Quesinberry Thanks for the info. Most of my investments are in the DFW area. I'm going to give your lender a call!

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    Real Estate Agent · Cumming, GA · Member since 2016 · 226 posts · 157 votes
    9y

    @Nate Barbee Do it! PM me, I'l give you contact info. 

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  • Investor · Denton, TX · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 5 votes
    9y
    Thank you for sharing! It's very helpful hearing from someone's experience!!
  • Investor · Redding, CA · Member since 2016 · 180 posts · 102 votes
    9y

    That's really good to know @Stephen Quesinberry. Thanks for the follow up!

  • Union City, NJ · Member since 2016 · 79 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    Stephen Quesinberry wow ! Thanks for sharing your experience. Very detailed and informative. I will deff be reading this over again. Glad it worked out for you.
  • Altoona, IA · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    Thanks @Stephen Quesinberry! As someone who is in the education phase/just starting to analyze deals this breakdown of your experience is very helpful!

  • Investor · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 18 votes
    9y
    Stephen Quesinberry ... always helpful to hear a success story from a newbie. I'm right behind you, hoping to do my first flip soon. Been on the hunt. Thanks for the nod to KBS Lending. I wanna check them out. I am seriously considering Texas Republic Bank to finance my flip. They're much cheaper than hard money, an actual bank that does commercial lending, but they function fast like a hard money loan. And their rates are fantastic. I spoke with Stephanie Wallace today, in case that option might be of interest to you next time around. About your $20k rehab... were you happy with the contractor(s)? If you don't mind putting me in touch, I'm developing my team and need some solid contacts in this area. Would much appreciate it! 😊😊😊
  • Rental Property Investor · Santa Barbara, CA · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    9y
    Thanks for the concise write up! As a new investor looking to jump in, this information is super helpful!
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