First Kansas City Turnkey Purchase

First Kansas City Turnkey Purchase

Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes

Hey Everyone, 

I figured I would document my first turn key purchase in Kansas City, MO. I read another members similar blog and found it very helpful. I won't be naming company names unless through private message for feel free to ask. 

I researched a number of turn-key companies before narrowing it down to a few. I also found an area that I was comfortable enough (a BP member drove the area and gave me the low down) with and pulled the trigger on one. 

My wife and I executed the contract on 2/10. The lender that BP suggested works weekends & as a Realtor myself, I really appreciate that. Also, every company & seems agent I have spoken with seems to know and respect this guy. Locked in my rate this morning (5% w/ 20% down). I was tempted to by down the rate to 4.75% since I negotiated $1600 in closing cost credit but realized I'd rather keep the maximum cash in my pocket. The more cash I keep, the quicker I can buy #2 if all goes well. And really after looking at the number, the .25 difference really wasn't worth it in my opinion.

Also, my contact at the turn-key company and title company they chose has been working this weekend as well. There has already been a string of emails going back an forth this morning. We have reach out to the physical inspection company to schedule the inspection. This company was also chosen through BP suggestions and vetted through reviews and past clients. 

Off to a good start I suppose. Here are my research numbers. I know it always looks better on paper so we will see in 12-13 months where the numbers actual fall.

Purchase Price: $85,000

Down Payment: 17,000

Estimated closing costs after credit: $1,100ish

Total Cash Out of Pocket: $18,100ish

Mortgage Payment: $365

Rent: $948

Gross Rent: $11,376

Estimated Expenses:

Property Tax: $486

Insurance: $675

Property Management: $910

Vacancy: $910 (8%)

Maintenance: $910 (8%)

NOI- $7,484

Cash Flow: $258.66

Cap Rate- 9%

COC Return: 17%

Again, follow along as this newbie enters the world of REI.

If you comment, please make it constructive. None of that negativity please. 

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Rental Property Investor · Shawnee Mission, KS · Member since 2014 · 205 posts · 136 votes
9y

Congrats, I think you did pretty well here. My recommendation is to figure in $100-$125 for CapEx right away, assuming you have a long term hold in mind. I also like the zip code you bought in, some nice neighborhoods in there. The property tax is surprisingly low. My only house in KC with lower tax is in a borderline hood area. I strongly recommend to run the address on rentometer.com (I have a professional subscription, but anyone can run a general analysis) and confirm the market rent. Even the most reputable turnkey companies naturally fill their properties at the top of the market rent it makes all the other metrics look great and maximizes the purchase price potential. Also check comps on MLS/zillow and make sure the purchase price seems to fit and you aren't starting with much negative equity. Regarding vacancy and maintenance, consider costs of make-ready and LEASING FEES between tenants in addition to month-to-month items. With just one property in the portfolio right now, be conservative. PM if you want any help.

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  • Investor · Emeryville, CA · Member since 2015 · 24 posts · 21 votes
    8y

    @ Chris Nordella congratulations, so that's 3 properties with USREEB. Glad to hear they are working out well for you. 

    What made you invest in Dayton, OH after first one in KC area? Do you think the appraisal value of these two houses will be higher than the purchase price? I am looking at properties in both KC and Dayton, OH but seems the listing price for houses from USREEB are higher the neighborhood. 

    If you could share some more info on properties (purchase price, expected rent, zip code) that would be really helpful. Thanks! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    8y

    @Akash Jain

    Thank you. I analyze all the properties the same, regardless of area. I was still looking in Kansas City but hadn't seen anything I liked. Sometimes the prices are higher than what is listed on standard MLS but you also need to realize that most of these properties have been completely gone through with most if not all major mechanicals replaced. Being that I'm not local. I don't want to deal with rehabs or major repairs, hopefully at least not until years down the road. That's why I like turnkey style. It's not for everyone and definitely isn't the best for sweat equity or BRRRR. If I lived in the Midwest, it's not the way I would do it though. I'd go the BRRRR route for sure.

  • Rental Property Investor · Dayton, OH · Member since 2018 · 142 posts · 74 votes
    8y

    We account for 10% maintenance, 5% cap-ex and 8-10% vacancy when we do initial number crunch. When keeping those percentages, strong cash-flowing Dayton properties have been hard to find, at least on the MLS. Maybe it's the analysis paralysis, but we've been trying to stay out of Mont. county because taxes kill the cash flow compared to other counties around it. 100k property in Miami county is like $1200 annual property tax. In Dayton/Mont. county it's pretty much double that. Brutal.

    For the turnkey properties, are you still cash-flowing if you account for eventual maintenance/cap-ex/vacancy every month? Pocketing $300 every month sounds nice...but if it's not accounting for any eventual expenses over the life of the property it doesn't look so good.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    8y

    Yes, after all the numbers it's about $338 and $275 a month. One has a 3-year lease already in place. One was basically taken down to studs and brought back up. The other had full interior rehab, new HVAC, New Water Heater, New Appliances and New Roof. The inspection came back clean. The one that was taken down to studs will be complete in a week or so and I'll go through the same inspection and repair request. I also spend zero of the income and it all just sits and builds in an account. I just treat it as savings and the account earns 1.8% interest on top of the COC return and only us the funds in case of repairs.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    8y

    My KC property has also gone up almost $10k in the first year value wise which I really wasn't expecting any real equity return on TK but it was a nice bonus. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Dayton, OH · Member since 2018 · 142 posts · 74 votes
    8y

    Gotcha. Sounds like a great return for turnkey! 

  • Investor · Emeryville, CA · Member since 2015 · 24 posts · 21 votes
    8y
    Nice, looks like you got a great deal with these OH properties. I am going to look into OH properies little more seriously now. thanks for sharing. 

    Originally posted by @Chris Nordella:

    Yes, after all the numbers it's about $338 and $275 a month. One has a 3-year lease already in place. One was basically taken down to studs and brought back up. The other had full interior rehab, new HVAC, New Water Heater, New Appliances and New Roof. The inspection came back clean. The one that was taken down to studs will be complete in a week or so and I'll go through the same inspection and repair request. I also spend zero of the income and it all just sits and builds in an account. I just treat it as savings and the account earns 1.8% interest on top of the COC return and only us the funds in case of repairs.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    8y

    Thanks. Good luck!

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    8y

    Closed on one, other closes next Tuesday. It actually appraised for $4500 more than I bought it for and the other just appraised for $5500 more than I bought it for. Nice 6.5% bonus right at closing. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Castle Rock, CO · Member since 2016 · 12 posts · 6 votes
    8y

    @Chris Nordella - I'm super late to this thread but researching some KC turnkey providers. would love to know who you used! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    8y

    USREEB @Beth Davis

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