Today - at age 24 - I "retired". Here's how I did it.

Today - at age 24 - I "retired". Here's how I did it.

Property Manager · Windsor Locks, CT · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

Hey all! Just sharing my story with the hope that it will light a fire under some of you, or keep the one you've already got burning hot. Here we go: 

It all started with a small loan of a million dollars from my dad....okay, okay only kidding!!

Last year I purchased a 4 plex with good amount of money down (20-25%) in East Hartford Connecticut. PP was 200K, and rents were at $3605 a month. I sat on the property for a few months, felt out the tenants and have since then asked a few tenants to leave, or increased their rent as a way to encourage them to find new housing. In the last 11 months or so, I have rehabbed two apartments (10-12K of material, labor done by yours truly) and am now sitting at gross rents just shy of $4,110. Recap - I got a 4 plex, put in 10-12K of rehab to get out an extra 6K per year. I like that ROI!


Most recently I purchased a SFR in Windsor Locks, CT. I'll admit, I'm a huge car buff, and I wanted the place for the generously sized 4 car garage....well, once we got to the inspection period, I didn't think the numbers would work, so I started to back out. The listing agent made magic happen though, and got the sellers to drop the price 60K! I figured that the house needed 30-40K worth of work. This property quickly became a home run deal.

Even though I'm a car guy and wanted that garage badly, I knew I had to mortgage the rest of the house with it...but, what 24 year old in their right mind needs a 4 bedroom house for himself? So guess who got himself a couple of house mates?? This guy! The mortgage and then some is covered, and now I am sitting on two properties, both with what I would consider good equity. One I will likely never sell, the other is more of a live-in-for-free-while-making-a-profit-flip. 

At this point, the money I make as a landlord is getting dangerously close to the money I was taking home from my W2 job as an entry level architect in training in downtown Hartford. I've decided to put that career on hold to develop a property management company here in north central CT. There is no way I could "retire" and sit on my butt for the next 60 years! Plus, I want to buy more cash producing assets, and be my own boss....that takes money! ;)

Here's to financial freedom, my friends!! 

Filipe

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Real Estate Investor · Las Cruces, NM · Member since 2016 · 186 posts · 173 votes
9y


Origi?nally posted by @Filipe Pereira:

Hey all! Just sharing my story with the hope that it will light a fire under some of you, or keep the one you've already got burning hot. Here we go: 

It all started with a small loan of a million dollars from my dad....okay, okay only kidding!!

Last year I purchased a 4 plex with good amount of money down (20-25%) in East Hartford Connecticut. PP was 200K, and rents were at $3605 a month. I sat on the property for a few months, felt out the tenants and have since then asked a few tenants to leave, or increased their rent as a way to encourage them to find new housing. In the last 11 months or so, I have rehabbed two apartments (10-12K of material, labor done by yours truly) and am now sitting at gross rents just shy of $4,110. Recap - I got a 4 plex, put in 10-12K of rehab to get out an extra 6K per year. I like that ROI!


Most recently I purchased a SFR in Windsor Locks, CT. I'll admit, I'm a huge car buff, and I wanted the place for the generously sized 4 car garage....well, once we got to the inspection period, I didn't think the numbers would work, so I started to back out. The listing agent made magic happen though, and got the sellers to drop the price 60K! I figured that the house needed 30-40K worth of work. This property quickly became a home run deal.

Even though I'm a car guy and wanted that garage badly, I knew I had to mortgage the rest of the house with it...but, what 24 year old in their right mind needs a 4 bedroom house for himself? So guess who got himself a couple of house mates?? This guy! The mortgage and then some is covered, and now I am sitting on two properties, both with what I would consider good equity. One I will likely never sell, the other is more of a live-in-for-free-while-making-a-profit-flip. 

At this point, the money I make as a landlord is getting dangerously close to the money I was taking home from my W2 job as an entry level architect in training in downtown Hartford. I've decided to put that career on hold to develop a property management company here in north central CT. There is no way I could "retire" and sit on my butt for the next 60 years! Plus, I want to buy more cash producing assets, and be my own boss....that takes money! ;)

Here's to financial freedom, my friends!! 

Filipe

 Congratulations on these deals! You are taking action and doing amazing and that's very inspiring. Keep in mind however that the sweet bank loans with low interest rates are much easier to come by when you have a W2 income and maybe you are not entirely dependent on the cash flow to live on. So maybe hang on to your job for a little while longer while you grow your portfolio or have a strong private lending network :)

Congrats again!!

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  • Investor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2014 · 186 posts · 34 votes
    9y

    @Filipe Pereira  I think this is what is meant by the "early retirement police"!  Congrats again on this purchase.  

  • Akron, OH · Member since 2017 · 25 posts · 14 votes
    9y

    Congrats!  Sounds like you have a strong plan for the future and continued growth.  Good luck!

  • Property Manager · Dalla, TX · Member since 2015 · 8 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    Awesome!! Im in a "similar" situation. Working on my second home. I can use some sound advice on how to make it happen as a 1099. I wont qualify for a loan and dont have 20% to give down.

    What I do have is a home that I financed for 150k and is now worth 300k. 

    What would you say is my best option?

    Second Home is worth 300k

    He's asking 250k

  • Property Manager · Windsor Locks, CT · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Pablo Mateos, I mentioned the 4100 is gross rents. I would say that on an average month without a turnover I typically incur $300 of expenses. It's usually $200 for water, $30-60 for gas, and then just misc small things here and there. I try my best to run a tight ship. 

  • Property Manager · Windsor Locks, CT · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Gabriel Haro:

    Awesome!! Im in a "similar" situation. Working on my second home. I can use some sound advice on how to make it happen as a 1099. I wont qualify for a loan and dont have 20% to give down.

    What I do have is a home that I financed for 150k and is now worth 300k. 

    What would you say is my best option?

    Second Home is worth 300k

    He's asking 250k

    I'm sure others can give you far better advice than myself, but if I were you I would exhaust all of my lending options first, then start looking for a way to get seller financing, or a partner in the deal if the deal is sweet enough. Even though I've been asked to partner multiple times by other investors and close friends, I just have a hard time swallowing the idea of not having full ownership. 

    If you do go that route, make sure you discuss the 4 "D"s before getting into bed with anyone. AKA what happens in the event that:

    -one of you gets divorced: who would get what?
    -one of you dies

    -disinterest : one of you looses interest in what you guys are doing

    -drugs: one of you becomes an addict and can no longer serve as a co-owner

    Sorry I don't have better advice, but I hope that helps in some regard!

  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    If you want to make your money just off a rents, then you have to have a sizeable portfolio.  Most real estate investments achieve "average" cap rates.    If you want to make 10K per month, you will have to own way more than 10 units.

    And being a full time landlord is... a full time job. It is not retirement. If you want truly passive real estate income, then you would have to invest in NNN retail. Or coinvest with someone who does the operations.

  • Rental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2017 · 17 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    @Filipe Pereira I'm looking to do something similar to your second deal, buying a 3 or 4 br SFR and getting a few house mates. How did you find people to rent rooms for you? Were these people you knew before hand or did you turn to something like craigslist? And how are these house mates working out for you so far? I've heard plenty of people on biggerpockets talk about getting a duplex and living in one unit, renting the other. But I haven't seen many people talking about a single family with rented rooms.

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    Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
    9y

    Early retirement is just the point when your living expenses meet your net take home. His accomplishment is more a result of limiting expenses than it is gaining income. 

    Here is another way to look at it. A homeless person with no job has accomplished early retirement. They are often perfectly happy. Money doesn't buy happiness. It buys time and opportunities. 

    Before quitting your job, run the numbers on what you need for living expense. Track your ACTUAL living expenses for a few months. Calculate your ACTUAL take home AFTER expenses. Take home is not rent. You need to subtract utilities, vacancy, payment, taxes, repairs, CAPEX and management.

  • Flipper · Crown Point, IN · Member since 2017 · 15 posts · 10 votes
    9y
    Awesome! Thanks for sharing your story.
  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 33 posts · 14 votes
    9y

    This is amazing! Thanks so much for sharing. It's the first time I see another architect in training in BP so far. i just joined. I'm going through the loan process with my husband. I work in downtown Los Angeles and there is so much construction around me. It would be my dream to be licensed architect at 25 and own a home/income property. The housing market is tough here but I'm sure we'll find a good deal that works for us. 

  • Barrington, IL · Member since 2010 · 204 posts · 54 votes
    9y

    Love the story, sounds like a great start to a long and successful career (retired) in investing!

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2017 · 3 posts · 2 votes
    9y
    Thanks for your response @Filipe Pereira. From the $4100 gross monthly rent you say you have  to deduct $300 expenses but how much is your mortgage payment? You mentioned that you put in about 25% as down payment, this means you put it about 50k of your own money? I just want to figure out how much net income you are getting from this property to be able to retire based on the 50k initial equity that you invested.  Apologies if answers to these questions are hidden in the replies to the multiple comments, but it is getting difficult to dig them all out. Perhaps It would be good to summarize all the responses into an updated post with full financials.
    Thanks a lot for sharing!

    Originally posted by @Filipe Pereira:

    @Pablo Mateos, I mentioned the 4100 is gross rents. I would say that on an average month without a turnover I typically incur $300 of expenses. It's usually $200 for water, $30-60 for gas, and then just misc small things here and there. I try my best to run a tight ship. 

  • Investor · Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2016 · 970 posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    good stuff and congrats!

  • Rocky Hill , CT · Member since 2017 · 1 post · 1 vote
    9y

    Congrats @Filipe Pereira, very inspiring from a fellow CT resident!

  • Rental Property Investor · Denton, TX · Member since 2017 · 51 posts · 17 votes
    9y
    Congrats buddy. Glad to hear about your success. Deff words that inspire. Sincerely Nico
  • Nashville, TN · Member since 2017 · 56 posts · 16 votes
    9y

    Great story Filipe! Sounds like you have found yourself a new career other than a 9-5 job! I always find myself very inspired and motivated to read stories like these. Makes me want to keep looking harder here in the Nashville area for good deals as those are very very hard to come by in this growing area. 

    Best of all to you Filipe!

  • Flagstaff, AZ · Member since 2016 · 44 posts · 60 votes
    9y

    Filipe, Congratulations on your decision to retire at the ripe age of 24. I am definitely in the 'happiness' camp as well, and can see the value in you leaving the 9-5.

    I have a question that I personally think is the difference maker. How did you come up with the initial cash? How did you go from nothing after school, and then nothing after your first acquisition, to having tons of cash on hand, to the level that you no longer budget for things on a monthly basis, so quickly?

    This is what is interesting to me. Because that's the tricky part in my opinion. I am never surprised when someone with 100-200k in cash ups and buys a handful of houses or apartments. That's common sense and easy to me.

    Also, I am more in the Joe camp personally. Am I one of the few who is unimpressed with someone who can make 3k a month in cashflow? That is not really life altering money when it comes to the big picture. If that limited amount of money was enough to retire, I could have 'retired' the day I married my wife (business owner). To me, while my earned income has been replaced with cashflow, my ability to extend myself into new ventures is seriously limited if I try to grow my businesses and live off of that cashflow at the same time. Hence why I am in the 'keep that steady W2 career for as long as you can".

    I do not personally know your position, or the work environment you elected to leave behind, so my opinions/thoughts could be completely off base. I'd love to hear your response.

    At my age (28 years old) I am in the camp that I have not earned the privilege of retiring just yet. I still have more work to do. 

  • Pinetta, FL · Member since 2017 · 27 posts · 7 votes
    9y

    Great Job Fillipe! Very motivating post, thank you for sharing!

  • New to Real Estate · Morrisville, NC · Member since 2017 · 32 posts · 36 votes
    9y
    Very inspirational. Great job!
  • Investor · Herriman, UT · Member since 2017 · 79 posts · 60 votes
    9y

    @Filipe Pereira Congrats on your success!  Love hearing stories like these!!!

    Coco 

  • Property Manager · Windsor Locks, CT · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Brian Ploszay:

    If you want to make your money just off a rents, then you have to have a sizeable portfolio.  Most real estate investments achieve "average" cap rates.    If you want to make 10K per month, you will have to own way more than 10 units.

    And being a full time landlord is... a full time job. It is not retirement. If you want truly passive real estate income, then you would have to invest in NNN retail. Or coinvest with someone who does the operations.

    Brian, I think I might have mentioned that I am perfectly comfortable with the income I bring in. I don't need 10K a month. As it is, I spend about 10 hours a month managing my personal rentals. That feels pretty good considering I was working 160 hrs a month (minimum) for not that much more income.  

    If you want to add "from my 9-5 job" after the word "retire" in the title of my thread, then by all means, be my guest. Regardless, you won't catch me behind my old desk tomorrow morning at 8AM sharp. ;)

  • Property Manager · Windsor Locks, CT · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Luke Bauer:

    @Filipe Pereira I'm looking to do something similar to your second deal, buying a 3 or 4 br SFR and getting a few house mates. How did you find people to rent rooms for you? Were these people you knew before hand or did you turn to something like craigslist? And how are these house mates working out for you so far? I've heard plenty of people on biggerpockets talk about getting a duplex and living in one unit, renting the other. But I haven't seen many people talking about a single family with rented rooms.

    Hey Luke, it was all on craigslist. I vet them like I vet any of my tenants, if not even a bit harder since I'm sharing a kitchen with them! So far so good. *Runs and knocks on wood*

  • Altadena, CA · Member since 2017 · 17 posts · 6 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Kurt Phillips:

    Congrats @Filipe Pereira!  There is no better feeling than that first Sunday night when it hits you, "Wait a second, I don't have to go to work tomorrow...or the next day."  That is an awesome goal to acquire $1 million worth of real estate.  You can totally do it by 30 if not sooner!

     LOL I was thinking the same thing ... that dreadful feeling

  • Altadena, CA · Member since 2017 · 17 posts · 6 votes
    9y

    Congrats on your accomplishment!!!

  • Property Manager · Windsor Locks, CT · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

    Early retirement is just the point when your living expenses meet your net take home. His accomplishment is more a result of limiting expenses than it is gaining income. 

    Here is another way to look at it. A homeless person with no job has accomplished early retirement. They are often perfectly happy. Money doesn't buy happiness. It buys time and opportunities. 

    Before quitting your job, run the numbers on what you need for living expense. Track your ACTUAL living expenses for a few months. Calculate your ACTUAL take home AFTER expenses. Take home is not rent. You need to subtract utilities, vacancy, payment, taxes, repairs, CAPEX and management.

    Joe, like I previously mentioned, you really don't know much about my financial situation, or my financial past for that matter. 

    I started working and actively saving money at the age of 13. I manage my money like it's my business, because it is.  

    I started my own Roth IRA when I was in highschool. I've tracked my ACTUAL income / expenses for years. 

    I can tell you, down to the penny, where my money has gone in the three most important categories of money behaviors: Giving, Saving and Spending. 

    Even after I quit my W2 I am still able to live the lifestyle I want, and put money into my savings and retirement accounts, month after month. 

    ...I'm not your typical millennial. I grew up reading Clark Howard and Dave Ramsey books. I know a thing or two about how to manage money. I am not sure what else to tell you, and it seems like you are on a never ending merry go round of repeating the same thoughts - all of which I have previously addressed in this thread. 

     At this point, I'm not really interested in spending good time after bad, so while you can feel free to continue commenting I will simply skip over them. 

    Happy investing! 

    Filipe

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