How I made $600,000 doing live-in flips in Hawaii

How I made $600,000 doing live-in flips in Hawaii

Isi NauPro Member
Real Estate Broker · Mililani, HI · Member since 2016 · 217 posts · 253 votes

The purpose of this post is to provide hope to those trying to make it in a high priced market such as Hawaii, California, New York, etc.

My wife and I made $600,000 doing live-in flips in Honolulu. It took us 11 years and three homes.

We purchased a 3 bedroom condo, sold it and purchased a 3 bedroom single family home, sold it and purchased a 5 bedroom single family home.

We have put in $80,000 along the way (down payment on Property #1, rehab of Property #1, and rehab of Property #2). That's roughly a 20% ROI per year ($80k invested, $600k return, 11 years).

Property #2 was purchased at the last peak of the market. Which is noteworthy because if you're doing it (REI) correctly, you can make money in any market.

Some take-aways:

1. Be ready to move

This plan will work best through multiple moves and trading up, but moving can be a pain. Unfortunately it is an unavoidable part of the plan. When a great deal comes up, you may have to be ready to move in a month.

2. Live below your means

This is where a lot of people slip up. It’s not fun or easy. It requires sacrifice and delayed gratification. Super unsexy, super unexciting, but super effective.

3. Lose sleep

Study your market, do some or most of the rehab yourself, talk to people in the industry, work two jobs (or one higher paying one). Everyone is busy and no one has the time, so how do people do it?  Delayed gratification.  You can always sleep (and watch Netflix) tomorrow.

4. Recognize a great deal

Know your market! Spend time each day (or at least 4-5 days a week) studying your market. What does a 3 bed/2 bath sell for, or a small house with a large lot, or the Eastside of town versus the Westside of town? You'll have to be an MLS junkie, but this will allow you to recognize a great deal within a few minutes of seeing it. When you see one, submit an offer that day.

5. Run the numbers

A lot. Know exactly what your home is worth at any given time. Know current terms and rates for financing. Run the numbers on 100s of homes. Again, this will help you to recognize a great deal instantly and determine if it will fit into your investment plan. It will also allow you to act quickly, which is essential in today’s market.

6. Get a realtor

One that’s doing it in your market. A lot. On Oahu, most realtors do not invest in real estate. If I had to guess, I think it would breakdown accordingly:

90% don’t invest

9% invest on the mainland or have one property on Oahu

1% are actually investing significantly on Oahu

Would you go to your dentist to get braces? She knows about teeth. Or maybe even your Uncle Louie? He has teeth. Or course not. You’d find a reputable orthodontist in your area who knows exactly how to do it. They can do most of the heavy lifting on Items 4 and 5 above.

You have to live somewhere, so why not make money while you’re at it. Live-in flips (and house hacking) can be tough with a spouse and/or children. Certain minimum quality of life standards have to be met. But a lot of money can still be made without inconveniencing the family too much.  My wife and I have five children, so we had fairly significant nonnegotiable life style criteria (schools, commute, good neighborhood, space, etc.), which limited how crazy we could get.  Others could, and have, seen much better results than ours.

To own a home in Hawaii is a blessing. If that home can earn you more money than your fulltime job, that’s the winning lotto ticket.

To those in Hawaii, find someone who is doing it! There are a ton of people who will tell you it’s not possible to make money in real estate here, let alone owning your own home. It is possible! It takes work and sacrifice, but it is possible.

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Zasha SmithPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Makawao, HI · Member since 2017 · 89 posts · 41 votes
8y

This gives me hope! I'm a married Maui mama, new to BP and posted about my current situation if you have any inspiring thoughts/comments.

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  • Residential Real Estate Broker · San Mateo, CA · Member since 2013 · 585 posts · 264 votes
    8y

    @Isi Nau nice job - that is a fun one journey for the record books!

  • Kailua, HI · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 5 votes
    8y

    @Isi Nau

    Amazing amazing post - thank you for sharing! Love what you say about delayed gratification - I'm seeing that this is so true, especially in this type of market in Hawaii. It's all about sacrificing especially in the beginning. I need to up my game on making time to get to know the market better. I have a ballpark idea, but what you said about knowing the current value of your home/property at any given time is wonderful advice, and knowing all the "numbers." Need to improve there! 

    We are also blessed to know a lot of good brokers both personally and professionally (I work for a developer here in town and work closely with brokers daily). The ones I do know do have investments here. 

    We are in our first live-in flip and currently have a 1yo child, our first, so much easier than with 5 school-aged kids! ;) But, that's also why I want to hit the ground running now, before our kids get older and it becomes more difficult to start out and make the bigger sacrifices. 

    MAHALO again for sharing your story! It's so encouraging and inspiring!

  • Isi NauPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Mililani, HI · Member since 2016 · 217 posts · 253 votes
    8y

    Thanks @Account Closed!

    No problem.  :)   I am glad I could provide something of benefit.  You're absolutely right, the earlier you can get started the better.  The older people get and the older their kids get, it becomes harder to move, be creative, and sacrifice.

    One of the hardest parts of live-in flips is the transition from the current house to the next.  This is what keeps most people from doing it.  The lodging and financing can be a hassle.  I have found that the more kids we had the harder it got, emotionally and logistically.  So the earlier in life the better.

    All the best!

  • Oak Harbor, WA · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 4 votes
    8y

    Mr. Nau,

    I was very moved by your insight and positivity around Hawaii real estate.  My wife and I purchased our first property on Oahu last year despite some telling us it was not a good time. Finding tenants was much easier than we thought and we are excited for the future holds as we proactively evaluate listings almost daily. 

    Mahalo, 

    Jon

  • Isi NauPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Mililani, HI · Member since 2016 · 217 posts · 253 votes
    8y

    That's awesome @Jonathan C Bennett!

    Keep up the good work!  I'm glad it's going smoother than expected.  If you get into a bind feel to reach out.  Aloha.

  • Investor · Clearfield, UT · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 1 vote
    8y

    Yes it is very possible to make money here in Hawaii - it's just a bit more challanging.

  • Jiva SegaranPro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Easton, MA · Member since 2014 · 87 posts · 22 votes
    8y

    @Isi Nau Yeah I still have the India Cafe and Super Gyros restaurants & Kiosks. Can check them out the the Navy Exchange food court if you are ever near the airport.  My UH one is closed for summer and Kailua is kinda far :)

    Aloha!

  • Member since 2018 · 20 posts · 4 votes
    8y

    @Isi Nau

    Very true!as if  your reading my mind as you put it this way.

    Im telling myself there's gonna be a way to beat the Cannot to HOW.

    i like it man you nail it.now i have to Deliver to make more savings.

    Much Mahalo,

    Joe

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    Late read, but this is Great!

  • Isi NauPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Mililani, HI · Member since 2016 · 217 posts · 253 votes
    7y

    Thanks Keith.  It looks like you are on track to being able to do the same.  All the best!

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