If the bottom is here why not buy now?

If the bottom is here why not buy now?

Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2008 · 1 post · 0 votes

Right now could not be a better time to buy a home! The primary difference is right now in the state of Colorado we are not "down" we are just slower than the last 5 years that have been historically high! It’s really all the "bad press" that you hear daily which suggests things are bad. If I told you several times a day that you look sick - and I continued to tell you that day after day – eventually you would start to actually feel sick!

What's going on in Colorado real estate right now is just simply symptoms of the above. Most of the issues are not reality based for our regions true statistics. Based on 10 year averages we are just slightly behind the curve for average amounts of sales. With interest rates still at 30-40 year historic lows, buying a home right now is a great deal. You will be able to take advantage of the folks feeling "sick" and who will be happy to "sell with out much of a challenge to your offer – since they have accepted that things are bad! Investors should be scooping up all these cheap houses on the market.

The final and most important reason to buy now is – prices have been flat for several years in our area – if you buy now, you will be in a position to ride the real estate wave back up - instead of waiting until you read "good things" in the media reports again – by then it will be too late to capture a great equity position in the near future by purchasing a home right now!

I think real money is to be maid in buying houses cheap right now or investing with a smaller builder on a specific project.

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  • Real Estate Coach · Oakton, VA · Member since 2008 · 695 posts · 43 votes
    18y

    Yes, you should be buying now. And, as a real estate investor you should always be buying no matter what the market. You will just change the strategies that you use.

  • Real Estate Investor · Lafayette, CO · Member since 2008 · 36 posts · 1 vote
    18y
    Originally posted by "Struben":
    Investors should be scooping up all these cheap houses on the market.

    Where in Colorado are you finding houses "on the market" that will cash flow or is your advice based solely on appreciation speculation?

    Do you have an MLS number or three that you can point to?

  • Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2008 · 59 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    I'm with ya. ^^^ The hype around here lately is all about how sales are starting to pick up.

    I mean, I know things took a dump, but stuff is still pretty expensive. The median price for a SFH here is still 200k. Getting something to cashflow...no way. A lot of people are losing jobs, we're out of season, gas and food are getting more expensive everyday...I don't know if your average household around here can swing something like that right now.

    Bottom? Maybe. Recovery? I have a hard time believing that, though it IS a good time to buy if you're stable.

    Another thing I wonder about is who is buying the houses here. We're still a vacation/retirement destination, so there are eyes from all over the US and globe on this market. I suspect that SOMEWHERE, someone has money to spend, and while it still might be pricey for locals, others see a big sign that says, "30% OFF!!"

  • Sacramento, CA · Member since 2008 · 108 posts · 7 votes
    18y

    The bottom is not yet in sight. But if you can buy at 50 cents on the dollar go for it. Just be aware that a year from now that deal might represent 60 cents on the dollar....

  • Real Estate Investor · Wyoming, MI · Member since 2008 · 195 posts · 10 votes
    18y

    the bottom is here in our area in west michigan..

    we seemed to nose dive sooner than most places did though.

    Prices should start climbing during the next 6-10 months...
    just have to keep an eye on all markets because as some go up, others go down

  • Real Estate Investor · Lafayette, CO · Member since 2008 · 36 posts · 1 vote
    18y

    How do you know the bottom has arrived? I'm not picking on you, I'm honestly curious on how you are making that determination for your market.

    For the record, I know next to nothing about the Michigan market.

  • Member since 2008 · 689 posts · 23 votes
    18y

    Most desirable areas in my city are holding. Mostly maxed out bungalows that people paid too much for the last 5 years. Agents are talking about selling their rentals, getting out of the business but so far, don't notice them going anywhere. Prices are till high but FSBO's here and there are dropping overpriced houses. The rental season is over so if you didn't catch someone earlier the summer won't do you any good.

    Developers are changing condo construction to apartment rental There's a move on to regulate the building of McMansions and cutting off the back of houses in in the inner city to foster new construction. One successful builder told us he'd like to see someone who can make money on rentals because he hasn't (10 year holder)

    One long term investor said she really has been thinking about taking cash out of some of her properties and doing what she wants with it. And she bought in the 70's.

  • Property Manager · La Mirada, CA · Member since 2008 · 38 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    I just did some research on median income vs median home prices. From 1968 til 1995, the median home price was about 2.7 times median income. In 2005, the median home price was 4.85 times median income. Using the historic data which are based on sound lending practices, the median home price right now should be about $135k. The actual median price right now is $206k. Given the fact that lenders have gotten back most of their sanity, prices will be falling for quite some time now. Thinking that "we've hit bottom" based on intuition, or ouija boards or what your Aunt Martha's cousin's realtor said is probably not a great idea.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
    BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    18y

    We're not even close to seeing the bottom ANYWHERE!

    Here's some news to chew on:
    IndyMac Bank is Shut Down and Taken Over by Feds

  • Real Estate Investor · Member since 2008 · 340 posts · 34 votes
    18y

    I'll be honest. I have no clue when the bottom will hit. The bottom could be now (which I doubt) or three years from now.

    All I know that I am going to buy and hold and buy and hold, while building cash flow. I'll change gears when it makes sense to do so, in due time.

  • Real Estate Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2008 · 47 posts · 22 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "plutopia":
    Originally posted by "Struben":
    Investors should be scooping up all these cheap houses on the market.

    Where in Colorado are you finding houses "on the market" that will cash flow or is your advice based solely on appreciation speculation?

    Do you have an MLS number or three that you can point to?

    plutopia,
    Look in the Denver metro area for great cash flow, look in the low income neighborhoods. You have to do your research on the neighborhood you buy in to make sure it isn't a war zone.

    Best of luck!

    John
    Denver, CO

  • OR · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 845 votes
    18y

    I'm seeing prices no longer dropping, inventories are being reduced, time on market is being reduced, the number of escrows closing each month is starting to increase.

    To me, all these things indicate that we've reached the bottom of the market in my town. We're reached the point where retail buyers think they are getting a good deal and are happy to pay the price.

    All of which doesn't mean the market has turned the corner and started back up. We maight languish at this level for a while, or this might be the new reality and the new price point.

    It will be a very long time before we see prices go up again in such a crazy manner. It may never happen again. In act, I hope the banks have learned thier lesson and will never again be giving away money like they did the past couple of years.

    If banks behave in a sensible manner, the real estate market can return to more normal behavior and prices will return to an orderly increase, based upon increased demand from a growing population.

    Wild speculation has damaged the real estate business, and that speculation was fueled by too much easy money.

  • Contractor · Atlanta, AL · Member since 2008 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    I don't think that the bottom is here yet.

  • Real Estate Investor · Reading, PA · Member since 2008 · 227 posts · 7 votes
    18y

    I agree that we have more room to fall. Comodities will not be getting any cheaper and people will not be able to afford many things including their homes with the trend being what it has been the last 2 years.

    rdinvestors

  • Real Estate Consultant · Member since 2008 · 792 posts · 30 votes
    18y

    There is one very simple way to determine if your area is recovering or not. The only question you need to answer is, "Is the rate at which homes leave the market faster or slower than the rate at which homes enter the market?"

    Is your inventory trend shrinking or is it growing? By the way, these numbers are very hard to track. Much more difficult than the "my realtor is seeing..." or "NAR reports..." or "the REO inventory is being consumed...".

    Real Estate values will stabilize when demand catches up with supply. Consumer confidence, employment trends, credit crisis, and lender reluctance guarantees that this will not happen any time soon.

  • Real Estate Investor · Sparks, NV · Member since 2008 · 45 posts · 28 votes
    18y

    I see double digit inflation in our futures. If that is the case, it makes sense to buy just about anything durable, especially real estate.

  • Real Estate Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2008 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    18y

    Many areas I believe have hit bottom, if they haven't it just means better buying opportunities for smart investors who like to buy low. Areas such as CA, AZ, FL, Vegas still have a ways to go down. Check out this Summer 2008 Risk Index.
    http://www.realwealthnetwork.com/articles/pmi_summer_2008_risk_index.doc

  • Jeff TumbarelloPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 323 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by Mike Seluk:
    I'm with ya. ^^^ The hype around here lately is all about how sales are starting to pick up.

    I mean, I know things took a dump, but stuff is still pretty expensive. The median price for a SFH here is still 200k. Getting something to cashflow...no way. A lot of people are losing jobs, we're out of season, gas and food are getting more expensive everyday...I don't know if your average household around here can swing something like that right now.

    Bottom? Maybe. Recovery? I have a hard time believing that, though it IS a good time to buy if you're stable.

    Another thing I wonder about is who is buying the houses here. We're still a vacation/retirement destination, so there are eyes from all over the US and globe on this market. I suspect that SOMEWHERE, someone has money to spend, and while it still might be pricey for locals, others see a big sign that says, "30% OFF!!"


    Mike
    Go to www.leeclerk.org check the last 2 days of deeds. Open the deed and look at the address of the person taking title. Our market has levels in it. At a cetain price point they are local, above that they are north and west of PA .

    Sale volume drives prices down until the inventory declines( on this side of the cycle). Go to the www.swflreia.com homepage, I have some market studys there, that will shed some more light.

    Do not buy Neg. Cash flow right now. Starting to see Positive cash flow at my offering numbers.

    What is bottom? I do not have a clue. I think bottom is when the prices stop decling, most link that to appreciation.

    Locally, for ever 2 deeds we transfer at the courthouse steps, they sell one out of the MLS. Pending sales numbers while are up over last year, are trending down.............
    This is the time for the ditch within the valley.
    If you have some money take a shot in Sept
  • Jeff TumbarelloPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 323 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by AlexK:
    I see double digit inflation in our futures. If that is the case, it makes sense to buy just about anything durable, especially real estate.


    Bingo!
  • Real Estate Investor · South Portland, ME · Member since 2008 · 33 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    Even a dead cat will bounce once when it is dropped off the roof

  • Jeff TumbarelloPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 323 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by Kevin Colwell:
    Even a dead cat will bounce once when it is dropped off the roof

    the old DCB
    Thats why positive leverage is so important. Time is on your side. If you can make it to the other side

  • Jeff TumbarelloPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 323 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by Joshua Dorkin:
    We're not even close to seeing the bottom ANYWHERE!

    Here's some news to chew on:
    IndyMac Bank is Shut Down and Taken Over by Feds

    this is just the start

    World's fastest-growing Real Estate Company: :lol: :cry:

    http://www4.fdic.gov/DRRORE/

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · San Luis Obispo, CA · Member since 2008 · 24 posts · 3 votes
    18y

    Careful when analyzing pending stats. Our charts look impressive but 60% is REO purchases.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Irvine, CA · Member since 2008 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    I think we have alot more room to fall. I would conservatively estimate things to go back to 2002-2003 prices when we're done. However, if you could get a deal 50 cents on the dollar I would definitely go for it.

  • Architect · sewekk, AL · Member since 2008 · 14 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    Theres properties that sold for 600k 6 months ago going for 200k clear but with strings attached, I am aiming at 2001 market prices and prior , will not pay anything higher than those

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