I'm set to close on my first property ever next week in Cleveland Ohio. I'm based in California and am struggling to find a property management service. Any recommendations welcome! Please let me know your experiences and what to expect in terms of cost.
Also, encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.
To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.
Even if someone gives you a referral here, do NOT make the mistake of assuming that the PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.
In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.
It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!
Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – so, they often select the first PMC they call or that calls them back!
So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.
EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!
This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.
The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!
A well written management contract should clearly spell out what is expected of both the PMC and the owner, to PROTECT both and avoid misunderstandings. Why do you think purchase contracts are so long and have such small print?
We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.
EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!
P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊
i hope you get some good recommendations but can you fly out there and meet folks in person? we see a lot of forum posts who never meet anyone in person and then things start to go off the rails
i hope you get some good recommendations but can you fly out there and meet folks in person? we see a lot of forum posts who never meet anyone in person and then things start to go off the rails
@ Andrea Lee we work with a lot of real estate investors that give us intel on who the top property managers are. Happy to provide some unbiased feedback on PMs in OH.
Also, encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.
To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.
Even if someone gives you a referral here, do NOT make the mistake of assuming that the PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.
In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.
It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!
Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – so, they often select the first PMC they call or that calls them back!
So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.
EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!
This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.
The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!
A well written management contract should clearly spell out what is expected of both the PMC and the owner, to PROTECT both and avoid misunderstandings. Why do you think purchase contracts are so long and have such small print?
We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.
EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!
P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊
@ Andrea Lee we work with a lot of real estate investors that give us intel on who the top property managers are. Happy to provide some unbiased feedback on PMs in OH.
I’m also an investor in Cleveland and would like that list. Thank you.
@ Andrea Lee we work with a lot of real estate investors that give us intel on who the top property managers are. Happy to provide some unbiased feedback on PMs in OH.
I’m also an investor in Cleveland and would like that list. Thank you.
i hope you get some good recommendations but can you fly out there and meet folks in person? we see a lot of forum posts who never meet anyone in person and then things start to go off the rails
I'm set to close on my first property ever next week in Cleveland Ohio. I'm based in California and am struggling to find a property management service. Any recommendations welcome! Please let me know your experiences and what to expect in terms of cost.
I'm set to close on my first property ever next week in Cleveland Ohio. I'm based in California and am struggling to find a property management service. Any recommendations welcome! Please let me know your experiences and what to expect in terms of cost.
Please and thank you!
I can send you a couple of good property managers that I have worked with that my clients really liked!
I'm set to close on my first property ever next week in Cleveland Ohio. I'm based in California and am struggling to find a property management service. Any recommendations welcome! Please let me know your experiences and what to expect in terms of cost.
Please and thank you!
I know them all. I also know many from Ca that have been and are still investing in Cleveland. I too live OOS and have been for 10 years buying rentals there, happy to help
@ Andrea Lee we work with a lot of real estate investors that give us intel on who the top property managers are. Happy to provide some unbiased feedback on PMs in OH.
Hello Sean, I hope all is well!
I just wanted to reach out and see if you could refer me to some property managers in Cleveland.
I'm set to close on my first property ever next week in Cleveland Ohio. I'm based in California and am struggling to find a property management service. Any recommendations welcome! Please let me know your experiences and what to expect in terms of cost.
Please and thank you!
I can send you a couple of good property managers that I have worked with that my clients really liked!
Hi Alfath I hope you are doing well could you please provide me with some PM referrals!
I'm set to close on my first property ever next week in Cleveland Ohio. I'm based in California and am struggling to find a property management service. Any recommendations welcome! Please let me know your experiences and what to expect in terms of cost.
Please and thank you!
I can send you a couple of good property managers that I have worked with that my clients really liked!
Can you send me this list as well? I’m also looking for recommended PMs in Cleveland’s west side.
@Samuel Diouf - some friends of mine who invest in Cleveland are looking for a property manager as well. Can you share the list with me too? I'm trying to help them out and came across your response.
I'm set to close on my first property ever next week in Cleveland Ohio. I'm based in California and am struggling to find a property management service. Any recommendations welcome! Please let me know your experiences and what to expect in terms of cost.
Please and thank you!
I can send you a couple of good property managers that I have worked with that my clients really liked!
@Alfath Ahmed, can you share the list as well? A friend of mine is looking for PMs in Cleveland.