How is everyone house hack going?

How is everyone house hack going?

Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes

How is the house hacking experience going? Are you enjoying it? I'm currently house hacking and its been pretty smooth!

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Brenden MitchumBusiness Member
Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 872 votes
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Hey @Kimothy Bynum, stoked to hear your house hack is going well! 

Ours is going great so far. Been a couple years since we bought it and have only had to pay PITI a couple months that it was vacant. We even typically get enough to cover our utilities for the month so living essentially "for free" (until something breaks that is). We'll be moving out soon and renting out our side on Airbnb as a mid/long-term rental and are already booked for 8 months. Having only come out of pocket a small amount for downpayment (5%), closing costs and some repairs, our CoC will easily be in the high double digits (after factoring in repairs/maintenance). This strategy is just a no-brainer, regardless of current market cycle.

What about you? Would love to hear more about your house hacking journey!

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  • Brenden MitchumBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 872 votes
    4y

    Hey @Kimothy Bynum, stoked to hear your house hack is going well! 

    Ours is going great so far. Been a couple years since we bought it and have only had to pay PITI a couple months that it was vacant. We even typically get enough to cover our utilities for the month so living essentially "for free" (until something breaks that is). We'll be moving out soon and renting out our side on Airbnb as a mid/long-term rental and are already booked for 8 months. Having only come out of pocket a small amount for downpayment (5%), closing costs and some repairs, our CoC will easily be in the high double digits (after factoring in repairs/maintenance). This strategy is just a no-brainer, regardless of current market cycle.

    What about you? Would love to hear more about your house hacking journey!

  • Jared HottleBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Cedar falls IA Waterloo, IA · Member since 2020 · 902 posts · 549 votes
    4y

    Great here! Times when it gets annoying I just remember I am living for free and reduces my largest expense to nothing in case other income streams are not doing as well. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Brenden Mitchum:

    Hey @Kimothy Bynum, stoked to hear your house hack is going well! 

    Ours is going great so far. Been a couple years since we bought it and have only had to pay PITI a couple months that it was vacant. We even typically get enough to cover our utilities for the month so living essentially "for free" (until something breaks that is). We'll be moving out soon and renting out our side on Airbnb as a mid/long-term rental and are already booked for 8 months. Having only come out of pocket a small amount for downpayment (5%), closing costs and some repairs, our CoC will easily be in the high double digits (after factoring in repairs/maintenance). This strategy is just a no-brainer, regardless of current market cycle.

    What about you? Would love to hear more about your house hacking journey!

    That sounds Amazing already booked 8 months out! what market are you in? i was thinking of doing airbnb in our unit when we move out. My house hack has been going great! I lucked out with some really good tenants which i think has made it super smooth. But i am in the Detroit area and dont know how that would work
  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
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    Quote from @Jared Hottle:

    Great here! Times when it gets annoying I just remember I am living for free and reduces my largest expense to nothing in case other income streams are not doing as well. 


     Its crazy how much money im saving because i dont have to pay for a mortgage. At this point i dont ever want to pay for a mortgage again its been nice and has freed up so much money which has contributed to a better life for my wife and I.

  • Brenden MitchumBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 872 votes
    4y

    @Kimothy Bynum

    I'm in Atlanta so quite a high demand for housing right now, especially mid-term housing for folks in the medical field. Highly recommend at least getting your space up on Airbnb to test the market. Do this a few months before you plan on moving out and make sure you set your nightly rate comparable to others in your area but be sure to check that your actual net would greater than if you just rented long-term. You'll also want to take into account that you'll need to buy all new furniture for your next place if you're leaving it there for the airbnb. But, the good news is it doesn't cost you anything to test the market like this except your time (make sure you stage for photos so it doesn't look too much like you're living there).

    Splitting the two units into slightly different strategies may work better than just doing one or could show that you're better off going with the same strategy in both (obviously this will change with the market cycles). If you have the time to manage, you might even wanna try straight STR on your unit instead of mid-term.

    Glad it's going well for you so far though! Are you planning on purchasing another house hack when you move out of this one??

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    Going well so far! I have been rehabbing the property. It has taken longer than what I thought but have learned a lot. Close to being able to get an appraisal and pull a HELOC. Plan to buy a STR.

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
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    Quote from @Caleb Brown:

    Going well so far! I have been rehabbing the property. It has taken longer than what I thought but have learned a lot. Close to being able to get an appraisal and pull a HELOC. Plan to buy a STR.

    What's an STR? And nice are you doing the rehab yourself? Is it a live and flip?

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Brenden Mitchum:

    @Kimothy Bynum

    I'm in Atlanta so quite a high demand for housing right now, especially mid-term housing for folks in the medical field. Highly recommend at least getting your space up on Airbnb to test the market. Do this a few months before you plan on moving out and make sure you set your nightly rate comparable to others in your area but be sure to check that your actual net would greater than if you just rented long-term. You'll also want to take into account that you'll need to buy all new furniture for your next place if you're leaving it there for the airbnb. But, the good news is it doesn't cost you anything to test the market like this except your time (make sure you stage for photos so it doesn't look too much like you're living there).

    Splitting the two units into slightly different strategies may work better than just doing one or could show that you're better off going with the same strategy in both (obviously this will change with the market cycles). If you have the time to manage, you might even wanna try straight STR on your unit instead of mid-term.

    Glad it's going well for you so far though! Are you planning on purchasing another house hack when you move out of this one??

    Yea I’m looking to purchase another house hack with my wife but I want a 4 family time around. I checked airdna it showed the profit would be double my rent. But not sure how accurate that can be. And that’s a good idea I can still set everything up take pictures and see how much traffic I get I like that! Thanks for the advice we have a lot of nurses here as well. Thanks for the advice. 
  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
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    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:
    Quote from @Caleb Brown:

    Going well so far! I have been rehabbing the property. It has taken longer than what I thought but have learned a lot. Close to being able to get an appraisal and pull a HELOC. Plan to buy a STR.

    What's an STR? And nice are you doing the rehab yourself? Is it a live and flip?

    Is it short term rental. 
  • Brenden MitchumBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 872 votes
    4y

    @Kimothy Bynum, a 4-unit would be awesome. Then you could test out LTR (long-term), MRT (mid-term) & STR (short-term) and see which fits the market and location best. All while you're still living there in the 4th unit!

    Let us know how it all goes!

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:
    Quote from @Caleb Brown:

    Going well so far! I have been rehabbing the property. It has taken longer than what I thought but have learned a lot. Close to being able to get an appraisal and pull a HELOC. Plan to buy a STR.

    What's an STR? And nice are you doing the rehab yourself? Is it a live and flip?


     Short term rental. There is a fun vacation market 3 hrs South of KC I like. My wife's father is a GC so he did some work, I had a GC gut both bathrooms. We are painting and doing the cosmetic things ourselves. It is a live in flip. We did some work before moving in

  • Real Estate Agent · Seattle, WA · Member since 2019 · 243 posts · 246 votes
    4y

    Going well! Primarily do Airbnb house hacking & it's been cash flowing really nicely (~$2.5-$3k a month per property). Moving on to try a house hack + building on a split lot as the next project. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    So far so good!

    I live in Los Angeles and on my second house hack. I've learned a lot and been fortunate to have good tenants along the way. Right now my wife and I live in a 3 bedroom house and paying almost the same as my tenants in the studio Accessory Dwelling Unit. Super wild but took time to get there.

  • Rental Property Investor · Concord, GA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y
    We're empty nesters and live in a house much larger than what we need so we rent out 3 airbnb spaces. 2 upstairs bedrooms and a larger space in the walkout basement. All three are filled tonight. It's a lot of work for my wife that does all the cleaning but it generates enough income to pay all our property taxes, utilities and insurance for the year. It cash flows as much as a 3/2 SFR.
  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
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    Quote from @Brenden Mitchum:

    @Kimothy Bynum, a 4-unit would be awesome. Then you could test out LTR (long-term), MRT (mid-term) & STR (short-term) and see which fits the market and location best. All while you're still living there in the 4th unit!

    Let us know how it all goes!


     That sounds really good actually I’ll keep you all updated!

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
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    Quote from @Eric Yu:

    Going well! Primarily do Airbnb house hacking & it's been cash flowing really nicely (~$2.5-$3k a month per property). Moving on to try a house hack + building on a split lot as the next project. 

    How is it house hacking with an Airbnb? Does it seem like a lot of foot traffic or rowdy people?
  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
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    Quote from @Rick Albert:

    So far so good!

    I live in Los Angeles and on my second house hack. I've learned a lot and been fortunate to have good tenants along the way. Right now my wife and I live in a 3 bedroom house and paying almost the same as my tenants in the studio Accessory Dwelling Unit. Super wild but took time to get there.

    Is that because the cash flow from your first property?
  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
    4y
    Quote from @John Teachout:
    We're empty nesters and live in a house much larger than what we need so we rent out 3 airbnb spaces. 2 upstairs bedrooms and a larger space in the walkout basement. All three are filled tonight. It's a lot of work for my wife that does all the cleaning but it generates enough income to pay all our property taxes, utilities and insurance for the year. It cash flows as much as a 3/2 SFR.

     Sounds like a pretty sweet deal. How is it living with people you don’t know?

  • Real Estate Agent · Seattle, WA · Member since 2019 · 243 posts · 246 votes
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    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:
    Quote from @Eric Yu:

    Going well! Primarily do Airbnb house hacking & it's been cash flowing really nicely (~$2.5-$3k a month per property). Moving on to try a house hack + building on a split lot as the next project. 

    How is it house hacking with an Airbnb? Does it seem like a lot of foot traffic or rowdy people?

    Got a property with an ADU. Lived out the ADU and airbnb'ed the main house :)

  • Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:
    Quote from @Rick Albert:

    So far so good!

    I live in Los Angeles and on my second house hack. I've learned a lot and been fortunate to have good tenants along the way. Right now my wife and I live in a 3 bedroom house and paying almost the same as my tenants in the studio Accessory Dwelling Unit. Super wild but took time to get there.

    Is that because the cash flow from your first property?

    Actually I used a HELOC from the first to do $0 down for the second. LA isn't about cash flow, it is about appreciation. Rents have gone up about 20-25% over the last two years.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:

    How is the house hacking experience going? Are you enjoying it? I'm currently house hacking and its been pretty smooth!

    We've been in ours since 2007.  It's just a MIL apt down in the corner vs a typical plex and the only househack in our neighborhood. 

    Househacking has helped us tremendously.  It helped pay off our mortgage and literally pays us to live here- all taxes, insurance,  utilities, maintenance, etc completely covered. 

    Is it a pain sometimes?  Sure.  Do I wish we had extra parking and could use the extra yard I take care of? Yes. Does my son wish he didn't have to look down and see if his basketball court has a car parked in it or not so he can shoot some hoops? You bet. 

    But if it's freedom and options you're after, you can't beat not having a housing expense.  Smal cost, large benefit. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Rick Albert:
    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:
    Quote from @Rick Albert:

    So far so good!

    I live in Los Angeles and on my second house hack. I've learned a lot and been fortunate to have good tenants along the way. Right now my wife and I live in a 3 bedroom house and paying almost the same as my tenants in the studio Accessory Dwelling Unit. Super wild but took time to get there.

    Is that because the cash flow from your first property?

    Actually I used a HELOC from the first to do $0 down for the second. LA isn't about cash flow, it is about appreciation. Rents have gone up about 20-25% over the last two years.

    That’s the thing about where I invest in Detroit there is not much appreciation but the cash flow is not bad  

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2020 · 127 posts · 63 votes
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    Quote from @Steve Vaughan:
    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:

    How is the house hacking experience going? Are you enjoying it? I'm currently house hacking and its been pretty smooth!


    We've been in ours since 2007.  It's just a MIL apt down in the corner vs a typical plex and the only househack in our neighborhood. 

    Househacking has helped us tremendously.  It helped pay off our mortgage and literally pays us to live here- all utilities, maintenance, etc completely covered. 

    Is it a pain sometimes?  Sure.  Do I wish we had extra parking and could use the extra yard I take care of? Does my son wish he didn't have to look down and see if his basketball court has a car parked in it or not? You bet. 

    But if it's freedom and options you're after, you can't beat not having a housing expense.  Smal cost, large benefit. 


     Wow since 2007 what is an MIL apartment? Have you purchased other properties or are you happy with what you have and the freedom it gives. Yea I love how much money we can save! It takes care of our biggest expense and because of that the money we would’ve spent on the mortgage can go to other things like student loans or more properties. I never want to pay for a mortgage again honestly. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Laurel, MD · Member since 2016 · 378 posts · 382 votes
    4y

    We bought our house in 2008 and we have paid over $150k...... let me rephrase that. Our roommate and downstairs tenant have paid over $150k of our mortgage. With rent increases we now have a nice monthly surplus. Financially it's great and from time to time to gets on your nerves but we would do it any other way.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Kimothy Bynum:

     Wow since 2007 what is an MIL apartment? 

    Have you purchased other properties? 

     MIL apt = mother in law apt.  A smaller place tucked out of the way.  

    Actually we were living cheaply in a trailer park while we acquired 3 dozen rentals prior to our househack. 

    Then another dozen or so consolidating,  selling /buying lease optioning etc since.  

    Now I'm 93% out after selling most on contracts and grabbing a chair and popcorn.  Interesting times... 

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