Astro Flipping Wholesale Contracts

Astro Flipping Wholesale Contracts

Specialist · Sarasota/Bradenton, FL · Member since 2018 · 14 posts · 9 votes

What’s up BP!

Recently, I came across a wholesale strategy called Astro Flipping, which seems to be a way to get multiple deals out of one property. This seems to be the new craze.

Have you done these kinds of deals before? What’s the process for successfully completing deals like these? And Is it worth it?

Thank you BP!

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Developer · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
7y

Astro flipping is a sales gimmick they are using to sell coaching. Instead of just telling you straight out they hint around and fluff it up. Astro Flipping is simply selling multiple properties to 1 investor. That’s all it is. it’s not 1 property turning into several deals its a relationship with 1 investor that you do multiple deals with. 

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  • Springville, UT · Member since 2014 · 95 posts · 16 votes
    7y

    Following. 

  • Investor · Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2017 · 40 posts · 65 votes
    7y

    Just watched Josiah Grimes webinar on it.  Definitely an interesting concept.  Interested to see who else is doing it besides him because he doesn't have the best FB reviews.

  • Real Estate Agent · Southington, CT · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    Can any of you explain the strategy by posting a case study or example of how it works? People may be familiar with the strategy, but may call it something different.

  • Rental Property Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2016 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    7y

    @Paul Fournier. What is Astro flipping? This sounds like a guru concept

  • Rental Property Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2016 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    7y

    @Paul Fournier. Quick google search explains nothing on the website, it’s pretty obviously just a ploy to get people to insert their email into his website by delivering this case study on “Astro flipping”.

  • Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 41 votes
    7y

    Here in California, everyone is doing it.  It's  some  what  of  a  burned  out sector for certain areas.   It's  caused  for  investors  to  buddy up  with  a  R.E. agent,  in  order,  to  get  the "in pocket" listings.  Hence, causing  for  the wholesaler  to  use  that  agent  for  the  re-sale;  if  it  isn't,  that  they  have  an  in  house  agent.

    If  you  buddy-up  with  other  investors, it's "no questions asked,  here  is  your  money and hand over the  title".   Properties  are  purchased  in  cash  by  a  group/pair   of  investors.  It's  repaired  with private investor money.  Such as,  Fund & Grow,  that  lends  on  a  zero  percent  for 12 months.  Once,  the  re-sale occurs,  Fund & Grow is  paid  back,  all  investors  get  their  profit  and  original  cash invested.  Keep  in  mind that  there's  plenty  of  tax  write-off  in  all  of  this.  Including,  gas, lunch, mileage, remodel expenses, points, interest, etc. 

    To  boot, the property can be sold before even  under  going  rehab and already have a buyer lined up and  waiting, ready  for  the  purchase  of  a  renevated  property.  This  is  done  with  a  contract   between  the  expected  buyer  and  release  from  the  1st  seller.  Contracts  can be lined up  before  the  renovation  even  begins.  Once,  the  rehab  is  finished...…. some  investor/buyer  may  request  that a  selective  tenant  be  placed, before  handing the property  to  the  new  owner.  This  is  speculative,  as  all  deals vary. 

    I'll  be  honest,  even  some  of  the  class "C"  and  "D"  areas  have  become  competitive  due to these wholesalers.  They  can  have  up  to  multiple  properties  all  at  once.  Some  of  this  craze,  has  caused  for  me  to go  invest  out  of  state.  

    Where  ever  you  plan  to  purchase...………..  you  must  know  your  numbers, your risk, your budget,  and  your expected profit.   If  you  don't  know  the  industry,  buddy with an investor  that  you  can  possibly  follow  and   learn  from. DO  NOT  TRY  THIS,  unless,  you  feel  confident  in  what  your  doing.   You  can  run  a  risk  and  loose  your  pants. 

  • Investor · Denver · Member since 2016 · 38 posts · 17 votes
    7y

    Very detailed explanation! Thanks!@Rose Arredondo

  • Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 41 votes
    7y

    Thank you!👍🏽

  • Houston, TX · Member since 2013 · 481 posts · 189 votes
    7y

    interesting. Thanks for the explanation

  • Saint Ann, MO · Member since 2018 · 26 posts · 7 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Rose Arredondo:

    Here in California, everyone is doing it.  It's  some  what  of  a  burned  out sector for certain areas.   It's  caused  for  investors  to  buddy up  with  a  R.E. agent,  in  order,  to  get  the "in pocket" listings.  Hence, causing  for  the wholesaler  to  use  that  agent  for  the  re-sale;  if  it  isn't,  that  they  have  an  in  house  agent.

    If  you  buddy-up  with  other  investors, it's "no questions asked,  here  is  your  money and hand over the  title".   Properties  are  purchased  in  cash  by  a  group/pair   of  investors.  It's  repaired  with private investor money.  Such as,  Fund & Grow,  that  lends  on  a  zero  percent  for 12 months.  Once,  the  re-sale occurs,  Fund & Grow is  paid  back,  all  investors  get  their  profit  and  original  cash invested.  Keep  in  mind that  there's  plenty  of  tax  write-off  in  all  of  this.  Including,  gas, lunch, mileage, remodel expenses, points, interest, etc. 

    To  boot, the property can be sold before even  under  going  rehab and already have a buyer lined up and  waiting, ready  for  the  purchase  of  a  renevated  property.  This  is  done  with  a  contract   between  the  expected  buyer  and  release  from  the  1st  seller.  Contracts  can be lined up  before  the  renovation  even  begins.  Once,  the  rehab  is  finished...…. some  investor/buyer  may  request  that a  selective  tenant  be  placed, before  handing the property  to  the  new  owner.  This  is  speculative,  as  all  deals vary. 

    I'll  be  honest,  even  some  of  the  class "C"  and  "D"  areas  have  become  competitive  due to these wholesalers.  They  can  have  up  to  multiple  properties  all  at  once.  Some  of  this  craze,  has  caused  for  me  to go  invest  out  of  state.  

    Where  ever  you  plan  to  purchase...………..  you  must  know  your  numbers, your risk, your budget,  and  your expected profit.   If  you  don't  know  the  industry,  buddy with an investor  that  you  can  possibly  follow  and   learn  from. DO  NOT  TRY  THIS,  unless,  you  feel  confident  in  what  your  doing.   You  can  run  a  risk  and  loose  your  pants. 

     Sorry don't get it. THe presentation is about wholesaling. This sounds more like a rehab business??

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2015 · 227 posts · 66 votes
    7y

    I didn’t understand either as it sounds more like a turn key model where you rehab a property, place a tenant and then hand over to a buyer. 

  • Real Estate Coach · Round Rock, TX · Member since 2015 · 431 posts · 235 votes
    7y

    I’m in the same boat—doesn’t sound very “new” to me. Just a few minor  tweaks to flipping.

  • Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 41 votes
    7y

    LoL!!! That funny , Jeremy......your right. It’s just a new tweak of who has deeper pockets.  The deeper your pockets the better it gets to turn these puppies. 

         After placing a tenant, just refinance. Pull your cash back out and repeat the process. 

         Back when I was buying, no one cared about property. Now, everyone has opened their eyes to this idea. The highest return is being the rare downs, down to the last wall.  That’s your best return. You don’t have to hold everything. 

  • Developer · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    Astro flipping is a sales gimmick they are using to sell coaching. Instead of just telling you straight out they hint around and fluff it up. Astro Flipping is simply selling multiple properties to 1 investor. That’s all it is. it’s not 1 property turning into several deals its a relationship with 1 investor that you do multiple deals with. 

  • Contractor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 1 post · 8 votes
    7y

    Thank you for the feedback. That's what I was thinking too because the "case study"  webinar was not a case study. It was more of a generic sales pitch because there was absolutely no value (at least to me) and a complete waste of time. I prefer an upfront sales pitch...no beating around the bush, signups, and upsells. 

  • Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 8 votes
    7y

    @A. Maria McBee, not just you, it a boring sales pitch and under 20 minutes into the call, they try to get me to pay them $7.8k of $5.8k if I sign up during the call!

  • Lender · Granite Bay, CA · Member since 2014 · 456 posts · 454 votes
    7y

    I always check into new things like this because I run a 2,000 member REI group. From what I can tell there is nothing new, or cutting edge with "astro" flipping. A flip is a flip is a flip. There are many unique strategies that can help you buy with less money, increase ROI, rehab cheaper, etc... but it;s all been done many times before.

  • Developer · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    Thats correct. There is nothing new under the sun. Creative financing, wholesaling, flipping and all the techniques have been around and used since people could buy property.

    What is new is the technology we now have to find motivated seller, cash buyers and manage the entire process. Back in the day it was door knocking, mailing, cold calling and good ole court house steps. No internet or smartphones.

    They to success in the business today is knowing your market intimately, consistency and focus on the marketing side, speed to lead, and a solid buyers list of real buyers with cash if you're wholesaling.

    On the flipping side its know what to do and more importantly what not to do when it comes to the remodel.

    Make sure to track everything you do and drill deep on the KPIs

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 16 votes
    7y

    Wholesaling is about to be extinct. I worked with HomeVestors of America and there are PLENTY of franchises that have perfected this technique in one city and use the funds to open up shop in another location. It's no different than McDonald's moving next door to a mom & pop burger joint. People will choose the easier platform usually. People don't change their habits, so that's the only thing keeping RE agents in the game. Astroflipping is going to shake it all up (like every other industry is being turn over, if you think RE is different I would love to hear how). The trick is getting the "flips" to continue by having a call center situation and an employee to set appointments and research properties. Then having the always available foot soldier to visit the properties and put it on a list makes it easy to hit 5+ appointments daily. Even if you go on 3 meetings a day, 4 days a week, and get 1 deal a week.... you're going to make it. 'Astro' refers to the idea that if you do a front flip in space you keep rotating, zero friction The basics: Removing risk by increasing advertisement = continuous leads. Increase leverage by using RE agents as resources and promising commissions for referrals whose homes are not retail ready. And because of the continuous stream, you are able to make MOST deals work because you have angles. This is BIG and I am excited for the future. 

    Every other industry is removing the friction for the clients. We're next

  • Contractor · Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    The rise of the tech companies within Real Estate i.e. Zillow, Opendoor, Trulia etc. will eventually eliminate wholesalers RE agents, but the need for rehab flippers is much harder to automate and therefore sidestepping the mass competition of iBuyers. Is that a somewhat true statement? Are there caveats? What am I missing here after reading through this thread?

  • Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    That is called rehabbing not wholesaling

  • Member since 2019 · 1 post · 3 votes
    7y

    Hi guys I'm pretty new to investing.  I bought in to one of the big guru companies like everyone says is a bad idea. I know on here I am about to be torn apart. But if not for them and the people I met though them I would probably have not found bigger pockets so fast. Which i wish i found sooner I have found great insight to the world of real estate investing.  Much valuable information.  Although the guru group was very expensive they definitely have taught me more then I could have learned on my own. So with that I am going to try and team up with the astro investing and see how that goes. It's so much cheaper than my guru group and probably what I would have spent in marketing any way. So what could it hurt. I'm not sure what the I'll hear from you all but either way I will share my experience and let you know if it is a good path or not. Have a great day and happy investing. 

  • Member since 2019 · 23 posts · 4 votes
    6y

    @Jason Hogue how much is the Astro program? Thanks. 

  • Member since 2019 · 1 post · 2 votes
    6y

    @Joshua Scott astroflipping is $5,800 if purchased within 24 hrs of the strategy session and $7,800 after that 

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Wilton, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Sonya Morehead:

    @Joshua Scott astroflipping is $5,800 if purchased within 24 hrs of the strategy session and $7,800 after that 

     That sounds like a Sam Ovens student! The magic $5,800 pressure tactic!

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