Are you having luck with organic SEO leads or PPC right now?

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Are you having luck with organic SEO leads or PPC right now?

Tomas Satas
Investor · Berwyn, IL · Member since 2015 · 64 posts · 8 votes

If not, what forms of marketing are working for you in this uncharted market?

It seems like tons of markets nationally have seen a HUGE decline in organic and PPC leads right now.

How are you improvising and making it happen during these crazy times. 

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  • Jason Moss
    Specialist · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2016 · 16 posts · 8 votes
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    Hey Tomas, Where are you getting this data from? I can only speak for my sites as well as my clients but our SEO leads are still coming in just fine. Remember, getting someone to your website is just the first part of the equation, the second part is selling yourself by having good credibility, trust signals, reviews and making yourself stand out. 

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  • Tomas Satas
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    Investor · Berwyn, IL · Member since 2015 · 64 posts · 8 votes
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    Originally posted by @Jason Moss:

    Hey Tomas, Where are you getting this data from? I can only speak for my sites as well as my clients but our SEO leads are still coming in just fine. Remember, getting someone to your website is just the first part of the equation, the second part is selling yourself by having good credibility, trust signals, reviews and making yourself stand out. 

    Congrats Jason!!! Happy to hear that you are doing great. So you haven’t seen any sort of decline in leads the past few months?

    I’m currently working on my sales techniques game so I can close any leads that I get.

    Are you running the PPC ads yourself?

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  • Jason Moss
    Specialist · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2016 · 16 posts · 8 votes
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    @Tomas Satas Haven't really seen the decline you're mentioning. If anything, it could just be seasonal. There's always people in weird situations looking to sell. And no, not doing PPC at this time.

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  • Tim Oppelt
    Wholesaler · Newark, DE · Member since 2014 · 83 posts · 54 votes
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    I run PPC for dozens of investors. Campaigns definitely slowed down through the winter, but that isn’t uncommon, depending on the market you are in. Definitely still profitable and a lot of our clients have been crushing it recently. If Opendoor or Offerpad entered your market recently, I could see that as a reason for decline. Other than that, might be short term random variation. 

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  • Account Closed
    Flipper/Rehabber · New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 340 posts · 122 votes
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    We have a full working thoughtfully intentional site and we get way more leads now than ever because the pandemic put people in distressful situations to at least have a convo about selling their home. It gives us an incredible opportunity to help. It’s not as easy as setting up a site though and getting leads right away However it’s not rocket science and can easily be thought out to be effective. Let me know if you have any questions.

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  • Mark Shaver
    Specialist · Boston, MA · Member since 2020 · 125 posts · 40 votes
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    Teaser: The secret part of the website lead generation equation. Knowing it can increase visitor conversion rates by up to 6 times.

    @Jason Moss wrote: "Remember, getting someone to your website is just the first part of the equation, the second part is selling yourself by having good credibility, trust signals, reviews and making yourself stand out."

    There's also a third, secret part of the equation. It's between attracting people to the website and selling yourself on the website. The secret part is called "website load time." Real estate investors don't know it and have no control over website load time. As a result, almost all investor websites are very slow, with most visitors leaving the REI website before it has finished loading.

    Let me explain with an example. Let's ask Google PageSpeed to check the loading speed of your website:

    Only 15% of your visitors have the patience to wait the long 13 seconds for your website to load. The other 77% of visitors leave the website before it's finished loading.

    Jason Moss wrote: "Our SEO leads are still coming in just fine."

    Jason, please speed up the loading time of your website to at least 3 seconds. This will raise your visitor conversion rate to 90%, according to Google's PageSpeed test. Then your contact form will get 6 times more SEO leads.

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  • Scott Corbett
    Specialist · Athens, GA · Member since 2013 · 15 posts · 2 votes
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    Yeah, we’re entering into a softer RE market for sure - in some markets especially, but I run an agency that does real estate PPC and SEO in a few dozen markets, and we haven’t seen huge declines in lead volume across the board although certain markets seem to be more volatile than others. You didn’t ask about this, but I’ll add that cost per lead with PPC is within 5% of where it was the past 12 months. Are you seeing something different in your own PPC/SEO campaigns? In what market? Gotta tell you that PPC from 2012-2022 got harder and more expensive every year and I’m actually wondering if that trend goes the other way in 2023… which wouldn’t be a bad thing for investors.

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