Can a primary residence be rented out during work trips for STR?

Can a primary residence be rented out during work trips for STR?

Member since 2023 · 13 posts · 1 vote

My daughter travels with work.  She is thinking of renting out her house for short term rental while she's gone to make up for some of the costs of being gone (she has some special need dogs that cost more to board). The city of Logan has information for short term rentals and require a business license and having a few other things, but all of the language sounds like if it is not her primary residence.  We haven't gotten into the world of short term rentals yet, so I'm at a loss at what is allowed, what isn't, where to look - she is going to check with her mortgage and insurance. But other than that - where do we find information with this? 

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Michael BaumPro Member
Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
2y

Hey @Debbie Palmer, so I am with @John Underwood on calling.

https://www.loganutah.gov/government/departments/community_d...

There are several folks listed on that site that should be able to advise.

I will say that she will essentially need to clear out all her personal and important things. All her clothes, special pics, knick-knacks, etc. She wouldn't want them getting lifted or damaged.

Probably need to move out all her food and various other things like extra cleaning supplies etc.

She will need a specialized insurance policy for short term rentals. Pretty easy to get. Make sure it covers the same things when she is in residence.

I guess the bottom line is to see if the juice is worth the squeeze here. Is she gone for 3 months at a time and then home for 2 weeks, then gone 2 months? That might make it worth it.

If she is gone a week, back for 3, gone 10 days, back for a month, I don't think it would be worth it IMHO.

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  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    2y

    I would start with talking with someone from the city of Logan to see if this is allowed.

  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    2y

    Hey @Debbie Palmer, so I am with @John Underwood on calling.

    https://www.loganutah.gov/government/departments/community_d...

    There are several folks listed on that site that should be able to advise.

    I will say that she will essentially need to clear out all her personal and important things. All her clothes, special pics, knick-knacks, etc. She wouldn't want them getting lifted or damaged.

    Probably need to move out all her food and various other things like extra cleaning supplies etc.

    She will need a specialized insurance policy for short term rentals. Pretty easy to get. Make sure it covers the same things when she is in residence.

    I guess the bottom line is to see if the juice is worth the squeeze here. Is she gone for 3 months at a time and then home for 2 weeks, then gone 2 months? That might make it worth it.

    If she is gone a week, back for 3, gone 10 days, back for a month, I don't think it would be worth it IMHO.

  • Member since 2023 · 13 posts · 1 vote
    2y
    Quote from @John Underwood:

    I would start with talking with someone from the city of Logan to see if this is allowed.


     Thank you. I was thinking that would be a good start, but I wasn't positive if there was something else.  

  • Member since 2023 · 13 posts · 1 vote
    2y
    Quote from @Michael Baum:

    Hey @Debbie Palmer, so I am with @John Underwood on calling.

    https://www.loganutah.gov/government/departments/community_d...

    There are several folks listed on that site that should be able to advise.

    I will say that she will essentially need to clear out all her personal and important things. All her clothes, special pics, knick-knacks, etc. She wouldn't want them getting lifted or damaged.

    Probably need to move out all her food and various other things like extra cleaning supplies etc.

    She will need a specialized insurance policy for short term rentals. Pretty easy to get. Make sure it covers the same things when she is in residence.

    I guess the bottom line is to see if the juice is worth the squeeze here. Is she gone for 3 months at a time and then home for 2 weeks, then gone 2 months? That might make it worth it.

    If she is gone a week, back for 3, gone 10 days, back for a month, I don't think it would be worth it IMHO.


     Thank you for that link.  I'll send that link to her for her research.  Good points to consider if it's worth it also. 

  • Jeremy HoldenBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2021 · 155 posts · 90 votes
    2y

    Im an investor and agent in Phoenix who operates STRS. Alot of this depends on your local and state laws. Each market has its own unique laws and regulations. 

  • Homeowner · UT · Member since 2024 · 5 posts · 3 votes
    2y

    Hi @Debbie Palmer

    If the primary purpose it to defray costs for caring for pets, perhaps the below site would be helpful?  

    Find Pet Sitters & House Sits Worldwide | TrustedHousesitters.com

     It is a site that trades pet / house sitting for free housing. I have a relative who works remotely, and he moves to different locations throughout the US and pet-sits for people who are traveling. He uses it to defray costs while experiencing new areas. 

    Regards, Trevor

  • Member since 2023 · 13 posts · 1 vote
    2y
    Quote from @Trevor Kupstas:

    Hi @Debbie Palmer

    If the primary purpose it to defray costs for caring for pets, perhaps the below site would be helpful?  

    Find Pet Sitters & House Sits Worldwide | TrustedHousesitters.com

     It is a site that trades pet / house sitting for free housing. I have a relative who works remotely, and he moves to different locations throughout the US and pet-sits for people who are traveling. He uses it to defray costs while experiencing new areas. 

    Regards, Trevor


     Thank you. That’s another great idea we didn’t even think of

  • Colleen F.Pro Member
    Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y

    @Debbie Palmer also if it is a multi bedroom apartment she could just lock off her space. She could do short term room rental so it is clear its her place still. You wouldn't make as much but it is more convenient. My son stayed with a guy who just did STR of a second Bedroom. You still would need to pay all the taxes and set things up completely with the town just like any STR. Tax rules federal are you can rent for I believe two weeks without it being IRS taxable.

    Be clear with anyone you talk to it is her primary residence.  Insurance you check with,  but mortgage company probably doesn't matter. 

  • Member since 2023 · 13 posts · 1 vote
    2y
    Quote from @Colleen F.:

    @Debbie Palmer also if it is a multi bedroom apartment she could just lock off her space. She could do short term room rental so it is clear its her place still. You wouldn't make as much but it is more convenient. My son stayed with a guy who just did STR of a second Bedroom. You still would need to pay all the taxes and set things up completely with the town just like any STR. Tax rules federal are you can rent for I believe two weeks without it being IRS taxable.

    Be clear with anyone you talk to it is her primary residence.  Insurance you check with,  but mortgage company probably doesn't matter. 


     Thank you - that is similar to what she is thinking

  • Sean O'KeefePro Member
    CPA | Accepting new clients | 50 States · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 870 votes
    2y

    @Debbie Palmer you can rent out your property when you are traveling provided you comply with local regulations. 

    If you rent out any property for 14 days or less in total for the year, you don’t have to report the income or pay any tax on the income (this is known as the “Augusta Rule,”). But if you rent any property, including part of your home, for more than 14 days, then you have to report that income on your taxes.

    However, based on what you said, you won't meet the IRS requirements (Treasury Regulations section 1.280A) to be considered a short-term rental (STR) when you file your taxes. If you use the rental space for personal use more than 14 days in a year (or 10% of the days if you didn't own it for the whole year), then the deductibility of your rental expenses are limited to the amount of your rental income (so you can't report a rental loss)
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  • Accountant · San Diego, CA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 552 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Debbie Palmer:

    My daughter travels with work.  She is thinking of renting out her house for short term rental while she's gone to make up for some of the costs of being gone (she has some special need dogs that cost more to board). The city of Logan has information for short term rentals and require a business license and having a few other things, but all of the language sounds like if it is not her primary residence.  We haven't gotten into the world of short term rentals yet, so I'm at a loss at what is allowed, what isn't, where to look - she is going to check with her mortgage and insurance. But other than that - where do we find information with this? 


     If you rent your house for less then 14 days per year, you do not need to report any of the income or expenses related to that. I would suggest taking advantage of that rule, unless you need to rent it out for even more time? 

  • Sarah KensingerPro Member
    Real Estate Consultant · OH · Member since 2023 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    It all depends on how long the work trip is. As mentioned, 14 days or less is not a problem and is known as the Augusta law. It started in Augusta, GA due to homeowners wanting to rent their homes out over the golf tournaments yet didn't want to be taxed. Anything longer than that you'll need to call the city and find out what is required, and sometimes that can take many phone calls until you get the right person. You'll also need to change insurance to a commercial policy since homeowners does not cover STR. Even if a tree fell on the house, it would not be covered because the policy was broken by the homeowner.

    Lastly...and this is from an avid guest at STR... Her home can NOT look like she packed a bag and walked out. I once stayed in a property like that and while we felt safe, it was weird! Everything personal throughout the entire home needs to be packed up or locked up. This would include closets, pantry, refrigerator/freezer, etc.

    Hope that helps!

  • Investor · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 754 votes
    2y

    Visit your court house, city hall, etc and see what you can find out about permitting and go from there. 

    Also try finding other hosts in the area and reaching out to them 

  • Real Estate Agent · Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2020 · 490 posts · 205 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Debbie Palmer:

    My daughter travels with work.  She is thinking of renting out her house for short term rental while she's gone to make up for some of the costs of being gone (she has some special need dogs that cost more to board). The city of Logan has information for short term rentals and require a business license and having a few other things, but all of the language sounds like if it is not her primary residence.  We haven't gotten into the world of short term rentals yet, so I'm at a loss at what is allowed, what isn't, where to look - she is going to check with her mortgage and insurance. But other than that - where do we find information with this? 


     Hey there! I am local to the SLC market. Calling logan city is the first step. Is this not her primary most of the time? 

    I do believe Logan allows for owner occupant STR licenses.

  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y

    Your daughter’s plan to rent her home out for a short time while she's away is a smart way to cover her travel and pet care costs. 

    There are income tax impacts, and she might benefit from increasing the average stay to more than seven days. This needs to be discussed with her tax advisor.

    Many cities allow short-term rentals of primary residences as long as certain conditions are met, such as obtaining a business license and meeting safety requirements.

    She must also check with her mortgage lender and insurance provider to ensure no restrictions and update her insurance to cover the risks of short-term rentals. I would be more concerned about the Insurance.

    Lastly, she should be aware of any local taxes for STR. She can opt into the platform to pay for those. She can successfully rent her home and make the most of her time away with some preparation.

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