Investor · NY · Member since 2024 · 23 posts · 15 votes
Hi all! I created an LLC through Legal Zoom for my first investment property, but I was wondering how everyone else went about this? What other programs are we using? Are you going through your accountant? Is everyone going through the proper publishing requirements with the state (for context, I am in New York)? Also, are you creating a separate LLC for each investment property? I've heard it's best to do that for asset protection purposes, but that seems like a lot of work and a lot of fees. What are your thoughts? What about umbrella insurance policies protecting the LLC? Does it make sense to have one if I only 1 or 2 properties (under the LLC(s))?
Relatedly, in what state do you suggest forming the LLC? For convenience, I formed by LLC in the state of my residence, but the property is located in a different state. Please advise!
Thanks in advance BP fam!
P.S. - might to title this Corporate*** formation. I have an LLC not a corporation. Thanks!
Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
6mo
fastest way to lose all the rental income you have coming in the door - blow it on fancy setups that cause aggrevation and your CPA to make great money.
Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
8mo
OP use the lookup function. Lots of posts on this. Get an attorney to do.
1. The Operating agreement is the most important part of the LLC. 2. State doesn’t matter. 3. only 1 LLC for now
4. Umbrella insurance is cheap. You should have. 5. Mitigation is your most important strategy. What are your documented procedures and contracts. Who salts the sidewalks? Does your contract meet standards? Annual ????? Inspections? Do you document why you turned down a potential renter? Etc.
Legal structure, insurance and operating procedures are your key liability tools.
Investor · Atlanta · Member since 2025 · 14 posts · 3 votes
8mo
To have some level of protection, I was taught to have a simple corporate structure, create a hold co in Wyoming or Delaware, create an LLC in the state you're doing biz in, the hold co owns the LLC, use a registered agent, don't file under your own name or your personal info. I used Prime Corporate Services. Around $500 per entity, they take care of creation, operating agreement, EIN, registered agent. Just created another one with them two days ago.
Thank goodness I haven't been in anything serious. There was one issue I had in a business deal, demand letter was sent to me that went way off from what we agreed in writing, LLC protected me since I did the deal in a separate LLC (SPV) and it didn't have valuable assets. We mutually agreed to what was written in the contract. Story ends. No attorneys involved on my end.
I learned early on to do one SFH deal per LLC, maybe two. One lawsuit can cost 100x+ more than what an LLC would cost.
Since you went through Legal Zoom, hope you didn't put your personal info down. I'd you did, you can always move that asset into a new LLC later when it's properly created for protection. Starting out, you should be ok.
Disclaimer: this is not legal advice. Please consult your attorney. :)
For asset protection, many investors choose to place each property in its own LLC so a lawsuit involving one property does not expose the equity in another. While this can mean additional filing fees and administrative work, it helps isolate risk between properties. When deciding where to form the LLC, the entity that holds title to the property is typically created in the state where the property is located, since that is where the business activity occurs. For additional privacy, some investors structure the property LLC so it is owned by a Wyoming LLC, because Wyoming does not require the disclosure of member or owner information in its public records. As for umbrella insurance, it can still be beneficial even when properties are owned through an LLC because insurance serves as the first line of defense, with the LLC providing a legal liability shield behind it.
Note: This information is for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, tax, or financial advice. No attorney-client, fiduciary, or professional relationship is established through this communication.
Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
6mo
fastest way to lose all the rental income you have coming in the door - blow it on fancy setups that cause aggrevation and your CPA to make great money.
fastest way to lose all the rental income you have coming in the door - blow it on fancy setups that cause aggrevation and your CPA to make great money.
Amen to this. @Victoria Spagnolo before you go crazy forming any other LLCs, be sure to reach out to a CPA that can consult on entity formation. It's never a one-size-fit-all.
LegalZoom is totally fine to get going, but after that I just filed directly or used a CPA—it’s cheaper and simpler. For NY, the publishing requirement is a pain but I’d just do it and move on.
On the LLC structure, one per property sounds great in theory, but most people I know (myself included) start with one LLC for a few deals and then separate later as they scale.
I’d honestly focus more on good insurance—landlord policy + umbrella, before overcomplicating the structure.
And for the state, I'd usually form the LLC where the property is. Otherwise you end up registering as a foreign LLC and paying double anyway.
If you’re only at 1–2 properties, I wouldn’t overthink it too much.
Attorney · Philadelphia · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
3mo
This forum provides excellent examples of why so many real estate investors spend unnecessarily on asset protection strategies without fully understanding what they are actually buying. A recurring theme is the inability to explain how or why the structures they pay for would meaningfully help if a dispute, claim, or lawsuit were to arise from owning and operating real estate. In my view, a lack of understanding of conflict and dispute resolution in the context of real estate ownership is precisely why so many of these strategies are flawed.
For instance, how or why would the laws of Wyoming or Delaware ever become relevant in the resolution of a dispute involving a property located somewhere else? In most cases, they likely will not. Yet investors routinely spend significant sums creating complex entity structures without first understanding what risks they are trying to protect against and how those protections would actually function in practice.
Likewise, if insurance is viewed as the first line of defense, there are often deeper operational issues at play. The strongest protection comes from reducing the likelihood of claims in the first place. Investors who focus solely on legal structures and insurance policies while overlooking the operational deficiencies that increase liability exposure, quietly cost themselves money every day, and leave themselves far less prepared to resolve disputes quickly and cost effectively when they arise. It's a glaring issue with independent or smaller real estate investors and their inability to ask the simple questions: "how" or "why" is lining the pockets of service providers who are taking advantage.