Minor Fire at My Rental Property - Looking for advice

Minor Fire at My Rental Property - Looking for advice

New to Real Estate · New York, NY · Member since 2018 · 29 posts · 9 votes

My building in NYC just experienced a minor fire. The fire seems to have started from an AC that a tenant installed. This is my first time dealing with something like this, but thankfully, everyone is safe.

It seems like the sprinkler system was able to put out the fire before FDNY arrived. When I got to the property, there was a lot of water from the sprinklers, and it looks like most of the damage is limited to some flooring and ceilings from the water.

I already called my insurance company and filed a claim.

For anyone who has gone through a fire at one of their rental properties, I’d really appreciate hearing about your experience. What were your next steps, and is there anything you wish you had done differently?

A few things I’m especially curious about:

• How did you handle the insurance claim and adjuster process?

• Did you hire a public adjuster, restoration company, or attorney?

• What should I be careful about when dealing with insurance and contractors?

• Did you wait for the insurance adjuster before beginning cleanup or repairs?

• How did you document the damage and repair costs?

• Were there any unexpected issues with smoke, water damage, mold, electrical systems, or structural damage?

• How long did the claim and repair process take?

I’m still relatively new to property ownership, and this is my first time dealing with a fire loss. Any lessons learned, mistakes to avoid, or advice from owners who have been through something similar would be greatly appreciated.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Malvern, PA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 933 votes
    2mo

    I had a minor fire in the basement of a rental about 6 years ago. I filed an insurance claim, used a public adjuster, got a payment and renovated. The tenant had to move out.

    I started basic cleanup right away, but did no demo or other work until the adjuster came out.

    I am unsure of the value of the public adjuster. They say they advocate for you to the insurance company and will get you a much larger payout. They did advocate, but I don't know how much more of a payout I received as much of it seemed straightforward. The downside is they take 20% of the claim after the deductible, so if they get more, they might take what extra they get and then some. You might not need a public adjuster if you have a fair insurance company.

    My fire singed the joists supporting the first floor. The insurance company decided they needed to be replaced because they were damaged. They were singed, but I could scrape off the damage down about 1/32" in the wood, so they really didn't need to be replaced. Replacing them required taking up the kitchen subfloor, floor and baseboard cabinets. Since the cabinets were old, they expected removal to destroy them and I couldn't match the wall cabinets with new purchases. As a result, I basically got a new kitchen. Other smoke damage line items basically paid for a whole house remodel.

    The insurance company also covered lost rent for the renovation time, so it was like I lost almost nothing. I had pseudo-rent flowing in with a paid for renovation. The claim process was less than a month. The repair was about 8 months.

    Smoke gets into everything. You can probably get value for everything in the house for smoke cleaning or replacement. You can't claim your tenant's property, but they can on their renters insurance. Some wiring was burned which was paid for too.

    I initially used a recovery company and feel that was a mistake. They charge a fortune for their equipment, such as a dehumidifier. Insurance paid something like $500/day for the dehumidifier which was a monster machine, but I felt like I could buy my own good dehumidifier for that amount. Insurance paid for it though.

    Contractor selection is the same as for any purpose: choose a good one (duh!). It's tempting to get the one available soonest. That would work out well, but make sure you understand why a contractor is immediately available. No work in the pipeline might tell you something.

    The insurance company may pay you upfront for depreciation only, then pay the full amount when the work is complete. That might leave you in a cash squeeze. It's something to talk with them about as you will probably need more than your deductible to complete the renovation.

  • Investor · Charleston, SC · Member since 2018 · 192 posts · 81 votes
    2mo

    Zulu, before work starts, I would build a claim file like you are handing it to a stranger: FDNY report, adjuster notes, photos by room, moisture readings, contractor bids, every invoice, and lost rent dates. The two line items I would confirm in writing are loss of rent and code or ordinance coverage, because water damage can turn into a bigger repair path than the visible fire. Cleanup to prevent mold is different from demo that changes the evidence, so get the carrier or adjuster to say what is approved before anyone starts removing materials.

  • New to Real Estate · New York, NY · Member since 2018 · 29 posts · 9 votes
    1mo

    Appreciate the advice!

    I heard back from the insurer, and they're currently treating their estimate as a “full and final” settlement, which I'm not comfortable accepting because I believe there are still items missing from the scope.

    Does anyone familiar with NY property claims know if I can request that the carrier issue payment for the undisputed portion of the claim while I continue disputing the remaining scope? My thought would be to secure the undisputed amount without signing a full and final release, then potentially retain a Public Adjuster to handle the remaining disputed items/supplement.

    Has anyone gone through something similar in New York?

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