Deal flow fix & flip.

Deal flow fix & flip.

Robin CastilloPro Member
Absecon NJ · Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes

Hi all, how are you guys getting deals good enough to flip? I'm doing cold Calli with very little luck, started looking into mailing campaign but besides the expense it'll take 6-8 months to get anything since multiple pieces of mail will have to go out to the same home owner before getting a deal, thanks!

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Investor · Pacific Northwest · Member since 2026 · 538 posts · 302 votes
1mo

I wouldn’t think about this as cold calling vs. direct mail. The bigger question is what list you’re working.

A flip needs a pretty unusual seller: enough equity to take a discount, enough motivation to actually take it, and a property where the rehab/resale math still leaves you a margin.

I’d rather work 500 properties with an actual signal behind them than cold-call 10,000 random owners. Vacant properties, inherited/probate, tax delinquency, code issues, tired landlords, failed/expired listings, pre-foreclosure, long-held properties with obvious deferred maintenance, etc.

Then underwrite the deal backwards before worrying about the marketing channel: realistic resale value minus rehab, carrying/transaction costs and the profit you require = the most you can actually pay.

And 6–8 months isn’t necessarily a failure. A lot of off-market acquisition is pipeline. Somebody who tells you no today can become the deal six months from now when something changes.

If you’re getting almost no traction at all, I’d inspect the list and the offer math before spending more money changing channels.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1mo

    Agents, wholesalers, FB groups are consistent. If you want to be direct to owner you can cold call, text and door knock.

  • Investor · Pacific Northwest · Member since 2026 · 538 posts · 302 votes
    1mo

    I wouldn’t think about this as cold calling vs. direct mail. The bigger question is what list you’re working.

    A flip needs a pretty unusual seller: enough equity to take a discount, enough motivation to actually take it, and a property where the rehab/resale math still leaves you a margin.

    I’d rather work 500 properties with an actual signal behind them than cold-call 10,000 random owners. Vacant properties, inherited/probate, tax delinquency, code issues, tired landlords, failed/expired listings, pre-foreclosure, long-held properties with obvious deferred maintenance, etc.

    Then underwrite the deal backwards before worrying about the marketing channel: realistic resale value minus rehab, carrying/transaction costs and the profit you require = the most you can actually pay.

    And 6–8 months isn’t necessarily a failure. A lot of off-market acquisition is pipeline. Somebody who tells you no today can become the deal six months from now when something changes.

    If you’re getting almost no traction at all, I’d inspect the list and the offer math before spending more money changing channels.

    • Robin CastilloPro Member
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      Absecon NJ · Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes
      1mo

      Very helpful, thank you!

  • Nicholas FloydBusiness Member
    NY · Member since 2026 · 200 posts · 78 votes
    1mo

    Are you looking to buy a property and fix it up and flip it or what?

    • Robin CastilloPro Member
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      Absecon NJ · Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes
      1mo

      Correct, I'm open to holding but mainly I'm looking to flip right now

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1mo

    Why does everyone want to chase strangers – and ignore their own personal network?

    Which do you think will be more competitive, buying from wholesalers or your own referrals?

    Per this NY Times article, the average American knows around 600 people.

    Per the US Census Bureau, the average American moves 11.7 time in their life, which based upon an approximate lifespan of 84 years, works out to be about every 7 years.

    So, if the average American knows 600 people and they each move about every 7 years, that means that the average American knows around 85 people that move in any given year.

    How many of those moves do you want to be involved in?

    To maximize the number of transactions you’re involved in you will need to:

    1)      Be Top of Mind when they think about moving - which requires consistent reminders.

    2)      Be seen as an Expert – which requires a consistent message and Evidence of Success stories

    3)      Gain their Trust – which requires communicating with integrity

    So, start out by CONSISTENTLY posting what you are doing on whatever social media channels you currently use. Not on any? You better fix that! You may also want to figure out which channels your family & friends use the most and get on those if you’re not on them currently.

    What should you post?

    How excited you are about what you’re doing in real estate investing! Share stories about your successes AND challenges. Then, ask them for their help!

    IMPORTANT: do NOT ask people for THEIR business, ask for referrals! Why? Because they will get defensive if they feel you are pressuring them. Remember, they can always refer themselves😊

    Use one of the ideas below to trigger who they know that they could connect you with:

    1)      Just inherited a home

    4)      Had a loved one pass away

    5)      Is behind on their mortgage or tax payments

    6)      Has a relative that can’t take care of their house anymore

    7)      Has a house they’re having trouble selling

    8)      Is facing bankruptcy

    9)      Knows a probate attorney

    10)   Knows a bankruptcy attorney

    11)   etc

    Putting this in OVERDRIVE

    Create a spreadsheet (Excel or Google Sheet) listing everyone you can think of that would recognize your name or face.

    Why a spreadsheet?  Because later, you can easily upload to a CRM like Constant Contact to create an email list!

    Create columns for Name, email, cell and even Street Address, City, State, Zip and then contact info: Last Contact, Relationship, Status.

    Then start calling these people. Divide the number of people on your list by 20 - and that’s how many you want to try to target daily.

    Whether you get ahold of them or leave a vm, use 1-3 of the above triggers for referrals.

    Why only 1-3 off the list per contact? Because on average, we can only remember three things at a time. If you try to go over the whole list, you’ll lose the attention of the average person and they won’t remember anything!

    It should only take you about a month or two to contact everyone on your list and then the tough part – you start all over again.

    Be sure to also ask what social media channels they are on and connect with them there.

    Why the repetition? Because it takes repetition for people to remember things and you have to be top-of-mind when they encounter a potential client for you!

    Have you ever been to McDonalds? Of course you have! So, why is McDonalds still spending billions on advertising?

    One more tip – people remember stories that trigger their emotions. So, tell a story of how you (or a fellow wholesaler) helped a seller out with their challenge(s). Change your story each month as different stories will resonate with different people AND use each story to emphasize one of your “who do you know…” questions.

    One last thing – we recommended you create a Status column on your spreadsheet, now we’ll explain why. If you find someone that seems to know a lot of people needing your services, wouldn’t it make sense to focus more resources on them? Conversely, you will run into people on your list that just seem to be a waste of time, so you’ll want to avoid them. So, create status codes for both of these and a few in-between codes to help you work smarter, not harder.

    • Robin CastilloPro Member
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      Absecon NJ · Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes
      1mo

      Lots of great info, thank you!!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Fresno, CA · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
    1mo

    Post on your local Facebook group pages, remind agents / wholesalers what your buy box looks like and that you're an end buyer.

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