Financing - to LLC or NOT to LLC?

Financing - to LLC or NOT to LLC?

Member since 2021 · 2 posts · 0 votes

I am still new to RE Investing. I am a small business owner and have been trying to figure out how to purchase an investment property under an LLC for the protection it provides. It have tried a local credit union in the past and the business rate they offered rendered the deal unprofitable. I have recently reached out to a BP sponsored lender but am facing a similar challenge. They are offering DSCR under an LLC, however they have a minimum of 100k loan. With the standard 20% dp that puts the property at $120k. Using standard assumptions (like the BP calculator), I am not able to find profitable properties in my area at that price. I can however make the numbers work for properties closer to 100k w/ 20k dp. This would unfortunately require a personal mortgage. My main concerns are personal liability and that public records reveal my home address. In your collective, experienced wisdom, how risky is owning a rental personally?

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LLC is the only way to go
You are overthinking it, just buy the property that makes you money
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  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12h

    Brad, I wouldn't let the LLC question force you into a deal that no longer works financially.

    The biggest distinction is that an LLC is primarily a legal/liability structure, not automatically a tax-saving structure. A single-member LLC is generally disregarded for federal tax purposes unless you elect otherwise, so putting a rental into an LLC does not by itself change how the rental income is taxed.

    If the DSCR loan under the LLC pushes the numbers from workable to unprofitable, I'd compare that against buying personally with stronger financing and then protecting the exposure through good landlord insurance plus an umbrella policy, while discussing the ownership structure with a real estate attorney.

    I'd also be careful about assuming an LLC gives complete privacy. Depending on the state, public records may still show the LLC, registered agent, mailing address, or other ownership information. A commercial registered agent and separate business mailing address can help with privacy, but I'd structure that intentionally rather than relying on the LLC name alone.

    If you eventually transfer a personally financed property into an LLC, I'd review the mortgage documents, lender requirements, insurance, and any due-on-sale implications before changing title.

    For a first rental, I'd rather see you buy a property that genuinely cash flows with a strong reserve position than overpay for entity financing just to say the property is in an LLC from day one.

    Feel free to DM me, I’d be happy to send over a few resources that might help with entity structure, financing, and setting up the first rental correctly.

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  • Stuart UdisPro Member
    Attorney · Philadelphia · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    11h

    A few things to unpack here.

    1. Your margins are too thin if a slight difference in financing charges makes or breaks the deal.

    2. I urge you to educate yourself on asset protection. This means understanding the risks most likely to affect you as a property owner, taking steps to reduce the likelihood of those events occurring, and ensuring you are adequately protected if they do. Based on what you wrote you appear to be confusing anonymity with asset protection.

    3. The biggest liability exposure has nothing to do with an LLC or anonymity, its purchasing $100K rental properties. The value of the real estate is rarely able to absorb the cost of licensed and insured vendors & a few minor underwriting misses can leave the property upside down. Keep in mind many cap ex items are closer to fixed expenses, particularly the larger ones which become mere rounding errors in more expensive properties. Even with an LLC you are personally guaranteeing the loan and therefore on the hook if the property value is less than the loan or alternatively you end up spending more than the property is worth. 20-25% equity cushion is not the same in a $100K property as it is in a $500K property. That 20-25% evaporates very quickly.

  • Member since 2021 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    2h

    Thank you for the responses.

    Ashish - You make a good point with the insurance and I can talk to my agent to see if an umbrella policy makes sense.

    I do wonder though if anyone on here has ever had an incident arise that their insurance either would not cover or the coverage fell short. In this situation the LLC would provide additional protection of personal assets.

    Stuart - My concerns are both asset protection and privacy. I am very interested in real estate as a path to financial freedom but it does seem like taking on a lot of risk. As a business owner, potential landlord, and family man it is concerning that a disgruntled customer, or tenant in this case, is only an internet search away from showing up at my front door. With that being said, it is not a deal breaker but it is another item in the risk bucket and I would like to keep that bucket as small as possible.

    If anyone has any experience with law suits or insurance claims I would love to hear about it. Maybe insurance alone is enough.

  • Arman AhmedPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2024 · 2k+ posts · 905 votes
    1h
    Quote from @Brad Schroeder:

    I am still new to RE Investing. I am a small business owner and have been trying to figure out how to purchase an investment property under an LLC for the protection it provides. It have tried a local credit union in the past and the business rate they offered rendered the deal unprofitable. I have recently reached out to a BP sponsored lender but am facing a similar challenge. They are offering DSCR under an LLC, however they have a minimum of 100k loan. With the standard 20% dp that puts the property at $120k. Using standard assumptions (like the BP calculator), I am not able to find profitable properties in my area at that price. I can however make the numbers work for properties closer to 100k w/ 20k dp. This would unfortunately require a personal mortgage. My main concerns are personal liability and that public records reveal my home address. In your collective, experienced wisdom, how risky is owning a rental personally?

    I'd look at the financing and liability pieces separately. If putting the property in an LLC kills the deal because of the loan minimum, it may be worth talking with a real estate attorney and a few lenders about your options before ruling out the property. I'd also compare markets where the numbers give you more room to work, especially parts of the Midwest, where sub $120K rentals can still come up.

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